A few short questions from my night out yesteday



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:04 pm 
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Hey guys, so I paid close attention to myself as I was sarging last night, to see where I was making mistakes. Got a few questions I could use some help with

firstly, i have a real problem of running out of steam. the first 5-10 minutes, I'm talking to the group, making everyone laugh, DHVing, negging the target, everything I should be doing...and then I just kinda lose it. I can't quite put my finger on it, maybe I get tired of cocky-funny very quickly or maybe it's something else, but i go from being centre of attention to being a bystander in less than 2 minutes. any advice there?

another problem i have a lot is getting locked out of sets. a couple of times i find myself outside the circle with some guy with his back to me and no idea how i got there. any ideas on how to prevent this, and what to do if it does happen?

thirdly, what are some good conversation topics to hold a girl over a prolonged period of time? i met my target at pre drinking so what do i do in the hour or 2 between that and finally being in the club?

finally, so these girls were taking pictures with me, so i made sure i was in the middle and put my arms around both of them. then one of them said something like "oh you think you're such a player." how do i respond to that? presumably a neg, but what exactly should i say?

would be great if you guys could help me
thanks
JG Neptune


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:38 pm 
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1. If you're trying to function/open solely off of canned material then you will easily run out of steam. The true social artist will be able to pick and choose from things in his or her environment to maintain conversation without seeming needy or desperate. This is what I do. I never used canned material unless it is a story that literally happened from my life. That's about as canned as it gets for me. But typically I just say whatever comes into my head. Whatever it is. I follow a philosophy that everything is taken care of by nature. Your ancestors have reproduced this long so in theory your genes are adequate enough to do the same yourself. So just let your brain handle it and don't think about it too much unless you really want to influence your environment (manipulation). You're getting tired after 5-10 minutes because you are anxious in these types of situations whether or not you are consciously aware of it. The minor fight or flight response you are having is draining you and after 10 or so minutes your body is depleted of things like adrenaline and cortisol so you feel sluggish. Nobody knows that this happened, however, you went from being the cool funny guy to the quiet guy. This lack of congruency is what is turning the set off of you. So following this logic it's no wonder why the next cool and funny guy is able to AMOG you out of the way. Subconsciously he has seen your weakness and takes advantage of it. Nothing really personal...probably didn't even know that he did it.

2. Conversation topics...I slightly covered this in the above section. Just say whatever the hell that you want and usually the female will respond to it as long as it is genuine. The words really don't matter. It's more so your behavior. So if you are just saying whatever you please and doing whatever you please then she will respond to it herself, or, rather, her body will respond to it with feelings of positive emotion associated towards you. Pre-drinking is probably a poor place to meet girls. You've already strut your stuff so unless it's better than a club night out with the girls then she isn't really going to want to hang out with you instead. You can tag along with them to the club but it seems sort of needy. I would rather you be social at the pre-game (cold reading is a good way to go. Get the whole group involved. Look up "Kokology") and then approach other women while at the club in front of the ones that you were pre-gaming with. This makes you seem congruent and they will love you for it. You may even plant a few jealousy seeds.

3. I'm not entirely sure what they were trying to accomplish. It could go a few ways. Maybe you are right and it was her form of a neg/shit test/congruency test. Or maybe she was really into you and was testing the grounds to see if you were proper boyfriend material. So if she isn't the type to go for players and maybe has some higher level of morals than the average party slut then this may have been a possiblity. My vote is that it was a congruency test. If you were being a good social artist all night and she was into it then she may have been looking towards your response for congruency errors. You could reply back with a joke that puts her in the spotlight such as "Yup I could play you like a violin." See how she reacts then you will have your answer as to what she meant. If it goes south then oh well more at the club.

I hope I was able to provide a little decent insight and help Neptune. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions or want to exchange ideas.


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