I said it works well even without a lot of club experience. That was actually my entire point. If you don't care much for clubs, but want success on the rare occasion you go to one, this makes it much easier.

You don't get good in clubs going out a few times per year. This works well for those who don't care to put in a lot of work getting good at club game. And it's perfectly affordable.

What I find interesting is that everyone saying tables are a universally bad idea have never even tried it, nor apparently know anyone who has. Yet they have opinions on how it doesn't work. Doesn't this strike you as a bit ironic?

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As i have already said, keep wasting your money on tables, even though its cheaper and quicker for you to rent a callgirl.

I am quite happy to continue spending $0.00 and pick up higher quality girls on the dancefloor.

Your table game is ZERO help to noobs who have no money. We are trying to help noobs get laid without emptying their wallets and banks accounts.

You see that is what I dont understand. Before I knew a place like this even existed, before forums, I always liked to bang new chicks I picked up on the street. call it what ever you want to call it the end result was always the same. And that is fuck the living shit out of some chick I just met.

I realized from a young age that women like a man that has financial security and I don't mean being rich. So even though I really liked to bang new chicks every week my main concern and still is was to make MONEY. With money come the women. IF you are a 30 years old and still live with your parents bumming rides of your friends I don't care how much game you have you will not be able to bang the same chick more than one maybe 2 times.

So if I was a college kid or still in high school I would be more worried about how to make money instead of what text message you should be writing a girl that has absolute no interest in him because he cant even invite her for a soda.

Dude. I have my own pad in the city, i drive a nice car, im not rich but i have enough money and time to do what i want.

I am not advocating living with your parents age 30. Stop being so extreme, youre being too black and white. I am saying i pull high quality girls consistently without splashing my cash. Recommending that noobs drop $200 - $300 a night is plain bad advice. Its not just bad advice, its irresponsible. You trying to bankrupt people bro?

Yes I advise noobs to get a good career, get a car, get an apartment, do not live with your parents, thats basic logistics. But never use your money to attract a woman. Lasting relationships come from building physical and emotional attraction. Girls will love to party on your money, yes, but when the party is over, they are not gonna stick around.

You've been sold a lifestyle. You see the Ferrari advertisement with the guy driving the cool car with the 2 blondes in the back. You think money gets you those girls. The lifestyle i am selling is you can pull those 2 blondes without the Ferrari and without the cash by actually just improving yourself and improving your skills with women. Stop being so lazy, always be willing to learn. Money game is for losers who are scared of rejection.

You keep splashing the cash bro. You make my job much easier when the girls get bored of your bragging and actually want a genuine guy who doesnt treat her like a prostitute.

^ this! exactly a newbie will not only get the wrong fundamentals from that approach, a newbie may also use this as an excuse not to take action...

And as i said is a bad frame to begin with starting a relationship with women on a bad foundation.

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I went out yesterday night to macumba and did not put a bottle. You know what happened??? Nothing Nada, ni pinga, All I did was embarrassed my self. I looked like a total clown getting rejected left and right.

I tried everything and just ended humiliating myself. This shit never happens when I have a table. I did the exact same thing I would have done if I had a table but in the main floor. WTF is wrong with me???

These broads get there panties wet when they see you in the vip. I swear. I don't know if its because of we are in Miami or if its because of difference in culture.

Someone mentioned I have anxiety approach. I only have that during my day game or with someone I know. I could give 3 shits in the club. I must have approached at least 8-9 women yesterday and ended nowhere vs 2-3 women if I had a bottle. If I had a bottle the only thing I would have worried about was if I used a condom or not because I am usually to wasted by that time to even care.

I'm all for tables etc

but if i have zero game and have to rely on table game. Then that would not be a good place for me. Having both would be splendid

Perhaps a goal you should solve?

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No, I do good on day game or in the street or in house reunions. What happened yesterday was that I wanted to try without a table in the club. a lot of people said that you don't need it, that it is exactly the same without it, that woman don't care about money, etc...

I tried it and failed miserably. Hunter used the dumbo analogy with the black feather. I really don't care if I have to use a feather every time I go to the club as long as its getting me new pussy every once in a while. Also I would never pay a call girl or escort. It defeats the purpose of game entirely.

Your problem is not Bottles/Tables vs. No tables.

Your problem is alcohol. You drink too much and you can't pull girls when you're sober. Drinking is your social crutch, your social lubricant and seemingly, also your opener. Women like confidence. You're not confident without alcohol. Alcohol gives you false confidence. You could get wasted on cheap spirits at home without spending a penny in the club and still pull without a bottle or a table. There's your answer. You're a binge drinker.

If you are always wasted when you pull, you won't learn anything and your mind's reward system will unhealthily associate the drunk feeling with success with women. Beer goggles, erection problems, hangovers, drunken violence. All this can be avoided if you just stop being lazy and learn how to be truly confident.

The Truth About Alcohol And Picking Up Girls - Benefits And Game Killers Revealed
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxhL4q2P4dY[/youtube]

Do you have any advice how to pull a chick from when they are dancing with their girlfriends, Or are the odds lower to open such groups? And trying to open mixed sets within the dance floor, how do i handle her guy/girl friends who are trying to cockblock when I'm trying to isolate her away from the dance floor?

I would argue with you but I cant because you are absolutely right. I cant pick up women without drinking in the club. I don't touch alcohol outside a club setting.

Funny thing is I can talk my way out of almost anything during day and I mean almost anything. Just last month I pissed dirty not once but 3 times and somehow convinced my female PO officer not to violate me.

That is a problem for me because people go to clubs usually to dance and drink. Thats probably why I associate clubs with drinking. I go to a club, I drink, get horny, see some HB , and just go talk to her with the intention of fucking her that night.

Usually when I have a table with friends I end up fucking her and when I don't I crash and burn. Thats why I am here to learn from my mistakes.

That video is very good for people that are new at this. He has very good points when it comes to picking up women when sober vs when intoxicated.

I now know that I have a major problem. I have been going to clubs since I was 15. So half of my entire life.
I fucked over 213 women and more than half of them I met at a club. And almost always I have been piss drunk when doing so.

He mentions that when you game drunk you start to associate that with pick up. I hope its not to late for me.

I think mystery is always right when it comes to this. First you need to befriend the AMOG when they are with guys or it will go very bad for you. At least from my experience.

Also never and i meen never! look for fights in the club or come off as a wise guy. Especially if he is with girls, he will need to fight with you even if he doesn't want just to keep his status in front of the girls.

It takes guts to admit you have a problem, so props to you and hope you can wean yourself off your reliance on drink! One or two drinks is fine, but i still think stopping completely is the ultimate goal. True core confidence is the ability to snap into state at the clap of your hands.

Lol, you could of just said "I have fucked over 200 women" rather than a very specific 213

Or you could of just said You have fucked 213 women and not be ashamed of admiting that you have counted every single girl that you have banged

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