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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:08 pm 
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Hi guys, just looking for a bit of external thought on the following situation:

On a night out at my friends uni's student union, a freshers event. Standing in the queue to get in with 4 guys (my best mate and his housemates) plus one random guy from their social circle which thinks/acts like he is AMOG.

This foreign girl comes over who I have met before briefly, about a year ago, and I see her look at me and ask one of the other guys "who is this guy?". He replied something and she goes "oh you're the pilot guy!", I just laughed and replied something like "yeah, I'm the pilot guy" and she mentions that we had met before so she obviously remembered me.

Immediately the AMOG who is on my right says to me "so do you have trouble making friends then?" and I just laughed at him and replied something fairly nonchalant at which point my best mate on the left says "don't worry, *AMOG* has a habit of being awkward".

At the time I didn't care too much but it did play on my mind for a couple of minutes.

Looking back, was he reacting to the fact that this girl (about a 6) had recognised me and said something about me in front of the group which demonstrated higher value?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:25 pm 
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He sounds like a loud mouthed beta to me.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:34 am 
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He sounds like a loud mouthed beta to me.
Well he was trying to lead the group, and I could see the other guys were sucking up to him a bit when we were playing games in the queue. Is there a better way to respond to a stupid comment like that?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:06 pm 
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"What do you mean by that?" said with a poker face. It's called a "frame battle", and you lost because you got rattled. Youtube "rdsalexander frame battles" and see if that sounds right.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:34 pm 
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Alright will do, thanks


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:38 pm 
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Come back with your thoughts on this.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:09 pm 
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Come back with your thoughts on this.
Watched a 30min vid, assume that was the one.

It seems to make sense, Alex is referring to frame battles with women but I see how it could apply between guys as well. If I understand correctly then, your frame is basically your ability/confidence to uphold your identity and sort of self amuse when interacting with, well, anyone?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:24 pm 
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Come back with your thoughts on this.
Watched a 30min vid, assume that was the one.

It seems to make sense, Alex is referring to frame battles with women but I see how it could apply between guys as well. If I understand correctly then, your frame is basically your ability/confidence to uphold your identity and sort of self amuse when interacting with, well, anyone?
You got it. Perhaps you don't think you have a hard time making friends, then one snarky comment from a random dude knocked you off your horse. The fact is, if he was a real alpha male he wouldn't feel the need to pay that kind of attention to you, he wouldn't feel the need to knock you down, and really, he is an insecure chode trying to pretend otherwise. Truthfully, I used to get rattled all the time, I had spent years alone and dealing with people was very difficult when I got into PUA. So, watch out for guys like this again. Now that you know what is up you can use that experience to fuel your confidence in the fact that you can peg an insecure loser for what he really is and beat their frame ten times out of ten. You can challenge them, or you can chuckle a bit to yourself (which is seriously invalidating to them) and turn your attention to something more interesting to you. Don't be hostile, or rude, because you don't need to be and you have nothing to prove to anyone, least of all a loud mouthed chump.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:38 pm 
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You got it. Perhaps you don't think you have a hard time making friends, then one snarky comment from a random dude knocked you off your horse. The fact is, if he was a real alpha male he wouldn't feel the need to pay that kind of attention to you, he wouldn't feel the need to knock you down, and really, he is an insecure chode trying to pretend otherwise. Truthfully, I used to get rattled all the time, I had spent years alone and dealing with people was very difficult when I got into PUA.
Ok cheers!
Yeah it did rattle me momentarily because:
A) I wasn't expecting it
B) It doesn't even make any sense. If I had trouble making friends then I would be moping around at home, not going out with my buddy and his house mates.

Thanks for the insight though, really interesting. Next time I will be able to deal with it a bit better!


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