Hello all,
Im really liking the girl and dont want to screw this up. Would appreciate some advice in next steps.

- we first met in a party, she gave strong IOI and I asked for her number

- first date: we saw a play together (her suggestion, she is an actress) and after that we went to chat for 2 hours and drink beer. It was nice.

- she texted me on the same date saying she enjoyed and she would like to meet again. I agree and she suggests woody allen movie 2 days after.

- we saw the movie (no kino) and after i suggested we go to a cool pub i know. Good time in the pub and bounce to another pub more like a club and kissed tere for the first time.

- i feel we have a somewhat strong connection already


- One day after (yesterday) i went on vacation for 10 days backpacking at awesome beaches

- we still didnt text yet after 2nd date. I should text her i guess but wated some advice as i alreadylike her very much and dont want to look that way to her at least on this stage.

Any advice on how to proceed?

Tks
pacerz

Thanks bro.
Actually I texted her (calling is expensive as i´m far away) and it went everything fine. We are chatting every day since then. The trinket is a good a idea, I´ll find something nice.

UPDATE (advices welcomed about how to give the trinket):

- been travelling for 8 days now; chatting to her everyday, very good vibe

- we still dont make compliments to each other like dont admitting we care so much

- we have planned some things to do when i return (movies at cinema and in my house , going to the park, watch her play and so on)

- i bought her a mini mask typical from the carnival city where i am

- do you have good tactic of how to give her this gift without looking too in love ? Like what to sau ?

I know im being perfectionist but once again i dont want this to blow up

Tks again.

I understand that you're not trying to mess things up, but you are moving yourself into the direction of putting yourself in the friendzone. No touching during a date? No compliments to admit that you don't care about each other? You need to do something so she is sure that she is more than just a friend before you give her any trinket.

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Oh man...I started getting frustrated after I read no kino. He's good then.

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me again. just as curiosity: I have some sort of thrauma with presents. once i liked a girl and gave a chocolate bar (6 months ago) on our first date because it was women´s day. long story short, she felt i was pressuring her because of the chocolate bar. but it was a different context.

back to present girl: to be cautious, i bought also a key ring of 1 dollar so later i will decide which one i will give. hehe.

Alright bro... listen carefully... You bought her a present when you were away for ten days and you've only been on three dates with this girl. Sure she's into you from the sound of things but it's way too needy to be giving her presents. It's clear you're seeing her as LTR material which -- even if she's into it -- is going to scare her right away if you try too hard.

If you have to give it to her just off-handedly give it to her when she's in your place to watch movies. Do exactly this: Watch a movie, have popcorn, make out and shit then stop midway through the movie and say "Oh shit, I almost forgot. I picked something small up. I know you're into this shit/masks/acting/whatever relates to it." then go to your room, come back and give it to her as if it was just an afterthought and not a big deal. After that she's going to give you a kiss.

Just play it cool, man. Don't do anything you would do for a girlfriend. Next time you think of doing something nice think to yourself: "Is this something I would only do for a girlfriend?" or "Is this something I would do only to impress this girl and make her like me more?" If it's either of these don't do it. Save the grand gestures and gifts for when you're actually in a relationship and have fucked the girl. She'll respect you more for it.

Also, the answer to how you should have given that girl the bar of chocolate was "Happy women's day! *wink*" and be full of energy as you say it. Personally I wouldn't have bothered at all.

Thanks Da and GamesSn again. Great reading you.

I will save the mask for later, or do anything else with it.

And will give the trinket only if i feel like doing it.

3RD DATE:
today I came back from vacation and as she commented her rehearsal was cancelled, i asked her out. We were talking about getting to a bar. I suggested she came in my place so we could drink some wine and maybe watch a movie. She texted "hummm. and what about the bar idea?" so I didn´t want to pressure her and suggested a bar she likes.

the date was fine, we talked, laughed , had a couple of drinks each and kissed. I gave her the trinket, she liked it, thanked, no big deal as it was supposed to be. she didn´t take initiative of kino with me even after we kissed. but one time she kissed me. This weekend she is presenting a play she acts, i will go watch her.

I don´t know exactly if we have evolved. She is a quiet girl, doesn´t seem to be the kind of girl that fuck a guy before knowing him well. she seemed very happy when I asked when we were going to get dancing classes, as if this meant i want a future with her. her kissing was initially a little shy, then she started to play with our noses and hugging me. when i drove her home, we didn´t talk about future plans . i feel we are kind of testing each other and i don´t want to open first. when i arrived home, sent her a message about a book she suggested me, she didn´t answer (i guess she went to sleep before).

I feel today she were a little on the back foot, afterall i came back from vacation today and it is assumed I partied a lot there, altough I didn´t tell her and she didn´t ask.

right now i feel a little insecure. I guess I should continue with the current approach, without chasing her and waiting for her to take more initiatives like texting. i will watch her play and will not make a big deal of it, like don´t be the boyfriend waiting for her to get out after the play finishes.

what do you think?

tks guys

I think you need to be more interesting and take initiative. No matter how she tries to pass her self off as the quiet and non-horny type she's going to get bored of you quick if you don't progress on from kissing her.

Next date you've got to make a move dude. Suggest dinner in yours and a movie.

So I would like to update this because i´m not confident right now. summary:

- I returned from vacation, watched her play and after she invited me to have a beer with her colleagues and director. I went with them and it was nice. think it was a big deal of her introducing me to them

- discovered interesting thing: she is kind of different, doesn´t like to be touched by strangers or people in general that don´t have intimacy. that´s why i felt it was difficult to kino with her in the beggining. but with she was ok.

- we´ve been going out (movies, parks, my house) for the past weeks . she came in my apt 2 days and we made out but she got LMR. on the third time she came here (3 days ago) i fucked her, finally!

- sex was good, nothing great (first time i guess), she didn´t cum. i had the feeling that she doesn´t have sex with a lot of people. 10 to 15 minutes long. made without condom.

- when she was on top, i couldn´t hold and said "i´m gonna cum", thinking she would stop or leave on top of me. she continued so i came inside her.

- pizza delivery guy arrived like 2 minutes after this (great timing haha) so i forgot to ask if she took pills (don´t want to be father right now)

- after eating and finishing movie i drove her home (it was monday)

- when i was getting back, i remembered to ask her about pills. i texted her, tried to ask in a kind way, but noticed she got a little serious and said things like "you should have asked me before". she tried to fooled me saying she didn´t took pills, but soon after said she was joking to make me scare.

- since then i haven´t met her and noticed text have slow down. she seems less interested.

- i talked to a female friend and she thought it was because of the pill thing, girls don´t like that guys ask later because it sounds like we just want to fuck them. she advised me to be kind to her and ask her out for dinner

- today i asked her out for dinner and she agreed. already know where to take her (cool french pub/restaurant). even though she accepted it, she didn´t text me all day long. i´m not going after her also (in doubt i prefer to remain quiet)

- tought about taking her to dance after the pub or make something different. than bring her home and fuck her again.

- what do you think it is happening guys? suggestions?

tks

As I said, the chick wanted a dicking. If she was so reserved and didn't expect sex she sure as hell wouldn't have let you fuck her bareback and cum inside her. Trust me, she was waiting to fuck you so take out of your head that you think she wasn't that kind of girl because they're all that kind of women just as men are unless they have some seriously fucked up shit happen to them in the past.

You shouldn't have asked about the pill... at least not via text or phone call or whatever. That's just brain dead behaviour, bro. Sorry to be harsh but come on. If anything you make a point to ask if she's on it before you fuck her. Infact fuck that, you should have been insisting you wrap up. Believe it or not she'll actually respect you more if you insist on a condom! It basically conveys to her that you're free of any diseases/infections and don't like taking the chance, that you only allow a select few to fuck you without protection all of which makes her more eager to get on par with you and feel that you're comfortable/trust with her to fuck her bareback.

Just do whatever man. If her interest wasn't high after you fucked her then you didn't fuck her good enough. That or she likes to keep her options way open and sees men like you a conquest. Once she has it that's all the enjoyment she needs from it.

You have a point, guess in some manner you are right, specially about asking about the pill and using condom. But it´s not the end of the world, i´m going out with her tomorrow again. i can fuck her again and compensate about the pill mess.

i guess she conquered me somehow, but i believe i can change that. i can´t be needy. i have options. any suggestions on how to adjust the frame?

i think actually she is frustrated about the pill thing. tomorrow i will give her an awesome night. dinner at french restaurant, then dancing samba at a bar/pub and afterwards fuck her nice. that´s the plan