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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:25 pm 
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It seems all women have the potential to stray? Is this a bad mindset to have?
Because you are a wandering man, you will only attract wandering women. And this is why every girl you meet is bad.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:43 pm 
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What women think they want and what they actually want are 2 different things

1) Every time i have been there for a girl 100%, listened to her problems and been a good BF, she has always either lost interest or cheated

2) Every time i have been in a relationship where i have flirted with other girls, treated the girl badly, ignored her wishes in favour of my own, focused on other things which dont involve her and generally just fucked her brains out, she cooks and cleans for me and works harder for my attention.

The happy medium is somewhere in between 1 and 2 but you get the idea. A woman's heart and mind want one thing but her pussy / clitoris wants something completely different. This is why so many of you get friend zoned.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:47 pm 
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And to the OP Mr Assertive, the 18 year old girl is not marriage material. She is too young. Wait til she is 25.


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What women think they want and what they actually want are 2 different things

1) Every time i have been there for a girl 100%, listened to her problems and been a good BF, she has always either lost interest or cheated

2) Every time i have been in a relationship where i have flirted with other girls, treated the girl badly, ignored her wishes in favour of my own, focused on other things which dont involve her and generally just fucked her brains out, she cooks and cleans for me and works harder for my attention.

The happy medium is somewhere in between 1 and 2 but you get the idea. A woman's heart and mind want one thing but her pussy / clitoris wants something completely different. This is why so many of you get friend zoned.
It's important to be able to differentiate between when your girl REALLY needs you, and when it's only comfortable for her to rely on you. Because if you become her tampon, she will throw you away just like, well, regular tampons, but sometimes it can really fuck things up when your girl expects her man to stand besides her and you're chit-chatting with another hottie at the bar. Pretty sure you're aware of this Hunter_Foxe, just wanted to clarify for the others.

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And to the OP Mr Assertive, the 18 year old girl is not marriage material. She is too young. Wait til she is 25.
^Agreed. 18 is way too young to even talk about moving together, let alone marriage.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:37 pm 
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only thing i know is when i did right by a girl she cheated on me.....I used to be the real romantic type, the good listener, the lover lol and every girl i've DATED since 9th grade has cheated on me...i know it wasn;t because of the sex, but it's because alot of women like that "aggressive, almost abusive type relationship" but that's another topic lol

back to the topic of marriage and settling down, im 21 and i want to have kids one day but from all the stories i've heard and all the movies i've watched, seeing friends who were just "sooo in love" going thru nothing but stress and hate now, it's just weird to me...then going on dating sites where women who have been married since 20 now in their 30's looking for love again, i just feel it's hard to tell who's just a waste of your life and who's not.....i remember one story my friend told me, it was this girl who always hung with them, 3 guys and 1 girl, one day she came over and she started getting sexual and she let all 3 of them have sex with her,a nd after the last one was done she asked him could she drop her off over her bf's house........another one of my friends was gaming a "happily married woman" she worked at some store, first time he went in there he got absolutely no love saying she's happily married with kids and in love, second time he got a smile and a laugh out of her, third time she was very interested in him and gave him her number, she made sure they only talked in person and never had any trace that they knew each other, and things got VERY sexual...this woman is still married and everything but had a fling with my friend.....

so yeah im paranoid, and honestly not looking for a relationship at all, im not hurting anybody lol i always take the role as a bridge guy, the guy girls talk to in between relationships, i TRY to get friendzoned but keep it sexual enough where these girls basically use me for sex....

I think if you want to settle down you should ALWAYS keep your game tight, even if it's flirting with some girls when you're with your friends, or having a conversation with a girl at the grocery store, anything that won't be considered cheating, as long as you don't take it to far i think it's ok....i see it as a back up plan, NEVER give your all to a woman lol it's alot of good ones out there, but it's ALOT of ones who can be seduced.....thats just how the world is, you can have everything but that one thing you want, and you'll give up everything for that one thing

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There are plenty of people with healthy marriages, there is always potential for straying obviously, but that's usually because the guy does something wrong. Think a good girl is going to cheat on the love of her life? I doubt it. You just have to keep growing as a person, and hopefully you two grow together. A girl looks at you like an investor looks at a stock- you are an investment, and she wants to see a payoff. She wants to see you grow and become even more of an alpha every day. You can't rely on your laurels forever.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:12 pm 
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yea blame the guy.

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fishinwomen - How is it the guys fault? If the wife has integrity she would file for divorce before getting another dick in her mouth.


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fishinwomen - How is it the guys fault? If the wife has integrity she would file for divorce before getting another dick in her mouth.
Not saying it's only the guy's fault, but come on, let's be honest. Most guys are not too good at relationships and understanding their girlfriends. Yes, this doesn't justify cheating, but women will always be women. They're too emotional. If they're constantly stressing on a hardly working relationship, and Mr. smooth comes along to relieve her with no-strings attached, mind blowing sex(which she will sense in the first 10 seconds when she sees him), then you have to be a bit more critical. Relationship is simply over, no need to drama, no need to try "getting her back". The only thing to do is move on, and ask the simple question: "What could have I done better?" When that is answered, you've grown as a person, and can now move on with another relationship, that will hopefully work out better. It's all we have. It's not like guys are any more faithful. Statistics say the ratios are almost the same, so you just have to accept the cold reality: People cheat.

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fishinwomen - How is it the guys fault? If the wife has integrity she would file for divorce before getting another dick in her mouth.
Not saying it's only the guy's fault, but come on, let's be honest. Most guys are not too good at relationships and understanding their girlfriends. Yes, this doesn't justify cheating, but women will always be women. They're too emotional. If they're constantly stressing on a hardly working relationship, and Mr. smooth comes along to relieve her with no-strings attached, mind blowing sex(which she will sense in the first 10 seconds when she sees him), then you have to be a bit more critical. Relationship is simply over, no need to drama, no need to try "getting her back". The only thing to do is move on, and ask the simple question: "What could have I done better?" When that is answered, you've grown as a person, and can now move on with another relationship, that will hopefully work out better. It's all we have. It's not like guys are any more faithful. Statistics say the ratios are almost the same, so you just have to accept the cold reality: People cheat.
that's true, and that's why when a woman cheats it's WAAAY worst, when a man cheats it's "usually" because the girl looks better or his wife does him really bad, when a woman cheats the husband could be damn near perfect but mr smooth might come around and show her a new side of life, and leave the husband there thinking "what did i do wrong" which KILLS trust me.....i've been cheated on and it took me years before i learned what i did wrong and that was not give her enough attention (meaning all my attention)......the reason i don't like "most' relationships is because no matter what happens it's the man's fault, and in order to fix the marriage or whatever, the man has to step up,

the problem is women tend to think emotionally (from my experience with women) and men tend to think logically....like we logically think if we want to get a girl we need to be nice to her, where as we all know that's not true....we think if a girl isn't complaining then she's happy where as a girl might keep her emotions to herself and just cheat.......to be honest that's the fun in pick up, you get girls at your local club, mall, campus, or anything, either get a one night stand or just become fuck buddies, then you find out most of those girls are either married or have bf's.....

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only thing i know is when i did right by a girl she cheated on me.....I used to be the real romantic type, the good listener, the lover lol and every girl i've DATED since 9th grade has cheated on me...
While we can't control others, although PUA would like us to think we can to some extent, you may want to ensure you view this problem correctly. While you will understandably take these life experiences to mean all girls will cheat, be sure to realize the sample isn't of all girls. It's only the ones you chose to date. Often people get into relationships for the wrong reasons/wrong people consistently and similar problems result. Be sure to keep that in mind when thinking about the problem.
i feel sorta like the joker here, give anybody the chance and the security nobody'll find out and people will do anything....give a girl who's in a happy relationship a chance to have sex with her crush or somebody attractive to her and she'll cheat if nobody will find out...it's human nature man....and i didn't say all i said ALOT lol

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No. On this rare occasion, your assumptions are wrong. I am the first one to admit I've fucked more married women than i can count. But i was married years ago when i was AFC and i am still proud of the fact that i never cheated on my wife and i have no reason to believe that my wife cheated on me before i divorced her, given that she begged me to stay and the fact that i generally have a very good radar when it comes to detecting girls who cheat.

Cheating on a boyfriend is different. You make that commitment to your husband, you sign a contract. It doesnt actually matter if you are AFC or not. When i got married i believed it was for life. As soon as my wife couldnt make my cock hard any more and i had had enough of a year of nagging, i ended it. I didnt have another girl lined up and i didnt cheat. But i was beginning to feel strongly attracted to other women and decided the right thing to do was end it before i got tempted to stray.

Nowadays i cheat on both my girlfriends. We're not married, so it's not the same. I project a very casual sexual vibe with both of them and in the 2 years i have been dating them, i have never said "i love you" unless drunk.

"Going out" is not a contract. But the legally binding contract i signed was the real deal so i honoured that contract. The married women i fuck are not marriage material, they are pump and dump material.

Dont sign a contract if you dont want to be monogamous. The moment you dont want to be monogamous, do the right thing and get a divorce. Same applies to married women.

A rare, serious post from Hunter.

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No. On this rare occasion, your assumptions are wrong. I am the first one to admit I've fucked more married women than i can count. But i was married years ago when i was AFC and i am still proud of the fact that i never cheated on my wife and i have no reason to believe that my wife cheated on me before i divorced her, given that she begged me to stay and the fact that i generally have a very good radar when it comes to detecting girls who cheat.

Cheating on a boyfriend is different. You make that commitment to your husband, you sign a contract. It doesnt actually matter if you are AFC or not. When i got married i believed it was for life. As soon as my wife couldnt make my cock hard any more and i had had enough of a year of nagging, i ended it. I didnt have another girl lined up and i didnt cheat. But i was beginning to feel strongly attracted to other women and decided the right thing to do was end it before i got tempted to stray.

Nowadays i cheat on both my girlfriends. We're not married, so it's not the same. I project a very casual sexual vibe with both of them and in the 2 years i have been dating them, i have never said "i love you" unless drunk.

"Going out" is not a contract. But the legally binding contract i signed was the real deal so i honoured that contract. The married women i fuck are not marriage material, they are pump and dump material. Same applies to married women.

Dont sign a contract if you dont want to be monogamous. The moment you dont want to be monogamous, do the right thing and get a divorce.

A rare, serious post from Hunter.

HF xxx
wait were you saying I was wrong? if so thank you cause i take that as a compliment from you lmfao

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only thing i know is when i did right by a girl she cheated on me.....I used to be the real romantic type, the good listener, the lover lol and every girl i've DATED since 9th grade has cheated on me...
While we can't control others, although PUA would like us to think we can to some extent, you may want to ensure you view this problem correctly. While you will understandably take these life experiences to mean all girls will cheat, be sure to realize the sample isn't of all girls. It's only the ones you chose to date. Often people get into relationships for the wrong reasons/wrong people consistently and similar problems result. Be sure to keep that in mind when thinking about the problem.

You guys missed Hobbit post which is bang on.

You guys are talking like when a married woman cheats a Dick just magically jumps into a pussy in a split second. Pick someone with integrity. Pick someone who is ready to settle down. Dont pick the girl whose friends cheat and she claims she tags along. Or who is 30 and still getting drunk at the bar. A good woman has enough integrity that even when tempted she will not proceed with cheating. Whatever you do a woman can find a reason to stray. Even if you're alpha as fuck she'll find a sensitive provider guy more attractive at some point. And even if you're balanced, she will find a guy who is at an extreme. Pick someone for the right reasons who can control herself.


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i agree

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