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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:23 am 
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I sat down with two girls who party. One seemed into me but the fact that she drank so much kinda turned me off. The Latina chick saw me and sat down so that was a bit awkward.

I haven't seen A in a while. I'm kinda looking for her because she seems to have a crush on me.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:26 pm 
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So I went to a random party yesterday and told them that I was told to come here by a rugby mate and he didn't say the room. They all laughed and invited me in. It was kinda awk because it was a birthday party. I flirted for a bit and touched her a bit but nothing really worth reporting

I came back at 12 and flirted with a girl who I'll call Ash. She's kinda attractive. She seemed really charmed by me.

I've had rugby practice for 3 days in a row so I kinda feel like crap. I've got a 7.5 mile run tomorrow which will suck.

So I'm either going to go clubbing or to a party today with a wing that I met. I really hope I can get some pussy. I'm starting to get a bit irritated about how difficult day game can be.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:19 pm 
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Ok, I don't know why I'm posting these anymore since I've gotten no advice for the past week. Fine, whatever. I'll probably just end this journal which kinda sucks. I was hoping to get advice to become better at this shit.

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Field Report:

So I gamed this chick really well. I was charming and she was obviously into me. I later found out that she was almost molested as a kid. She seemed fine. I didn't make a move because of those. Just by the way she was looking at me I could tell that she was interested in me. She was in my room until 12 (she liked video games and I had a PS3).

The following morning I got a long ass text from her talking about how she violated her Honor Code and shit like that. I shot her a text saying it was okay and that she shouldn't feel like that

So... To pursue or not to pursue? I'll just wait until she texts me or until we bump into each other.

I seriously need help with my game though. It seems like I can game but going farther is always a bit akward and unfortunately there is a lot less stuff on day game then there is on night.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:39 pm 
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Field Report:

I came back from rugby and when I was ordering dinner I flirted with the chick at the register. I asked her about my rugby shorts (rugby shorts are pretty short) and said I thought I was pulling them off. She agreed. It was pretty much like with the underwear girl, you think your're going to get slapped in the face but you're not.

I also opened a group of girls (miraculously). Ash was in the group along with a different H (I'll call her H2) who I flirted with for a bit. It seems like my game is coming back. I still need help though.

At breakfast, I flirted with this girl (who I'll call Z) who had died hair and turned out to be on the rugby team. She said that the women's rugby team watches the men so I hope to see her tomorrow and try to N close her.

That guy who I was going to go clubbing with is going to go to a party or a club with me this weekend.

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Echo echo echo...

Hello? Anyone here?

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So I went to this party and had some AA. I was touching this one girl for a bit and she seemed into me but I had no fucking idea how to escalate.

The day After I went to a rugby party. That went well. Since most of the guys knew me they'd introduce me to the ladies, they'd put their arm around me so I was never standing awkwardly in the corner, it put me at a huge advantage. I was gaming 2 girls, one called R and the other called B (at different times). This chick who was cute introduced me to B (she was one of the girls who I talked to when J came and sat down). B seemed impressed by my status, but she left with her friends. I was feeling up R a bit then The cop's shut down the party (I got Cop Blocked, lol). So that sucked. I brought my roommate and his friends to the party so they thought I was some rugby badass which was cool.

Last night after teaching programming, I went out with one of my mates, Austin, who has already F-closed a girl after just 2 weeks of college. He takes an AFC approach, but it still works. It just kinda got me thinking. I told him that I N-closed 5 girls and was gaming them. He was impressed. He said that he got lucky with the F-close and said I was doing everything right. Before I started talking to him about this, I was gaming an HB6.5 working behind the register. I was using playful negs and she got pretty into me. It got to the point where she said I had to use the standard water cups (she was acting really sorry) and i just said "Now how are you going to impress a guy like that." She was giving me strong IOI's now (now in hindsight I should have said "How are you going to get my number like that?". I got 4 of the small water cups and offered a trade. She was laughing hard. She gave me the cup and was about to throw away the water cups and I said "Wait, why would you throw those away? That's kinda harsh after I gave them to you" she held the cups for a While and then I just said "You aren't actually going to keep those cups just because I gave them to you, are you? that's just creepy."

Austin saw most of this and thought I was messing with her the whole time. When I told him about gaming he said (you weren't flirting with her, you were just teasing her). I had my back turned to her (we were sitting down) and he could see her. I just said "Look at her". He complied. I then said "She's eyeing me, isn't she?". Austin said "Holy shit, your right!"

This morning I bumped into Z again. I talked to her about rugby and stuff and N-Closed her. Couldn't figure out how to qualify her. She happens to be one of those more sensitive types where if I played hard to get at all she'd give up. She seems into me.

In physics I wasn't trying to game A, it just kinda happened. She turned to me for physics help and I gave it to her. She was impressed by the knowledge I had (I know, this isn't gaming, you'll see). When the Professor said "Consult and confer with your excellent partners", I acted like I was checking A out, raised my hand, and said "What if they aren't excellent?" The whole class burst out laughing (including the professor). I was worried that I'd be F-zoned by A because in that class I'm the nerd, but I got out of that category today.

Now, off to History. Things aren't going well with H, but fuck it. I've got 2 A's (lol), Z, J, B, and R to focus on. That woman who turned out to be a lesbian loves talking politics with me said "Oh, you've got to meet XXX, She would love you!" so that's also pretty cool. Things are looking up. I also have Austin to game with.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:25 pm 
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Haha, Lol. Things are going well (or better) with H now. She walked in with no shoes or socks (because the class is in our Dorm) and I just said "No shoes again?" She said that she was napping. I said that I woke up at six. She said "So did I, thats why I need to nap. You need to nap. After this I'm taking another one."

Later a guy (kinda nerdy) walks in and sits in a crappy seat next to H. I said "You afraid of me brah?" He looks confused until he realizes that there is an open seat next to me. H kinda flipped and said "Is it because he's next to me" and acted shocked. I said "No, it's because its a crap seat. But man are you stinky H" as I fanned the air. She got all self conscious and said "I know" (I swear, I didn't smell anything) and I just said "It's okay, I'm just messing". It was so funny though.

Negs are your friends people. Don't be afraid to use them.

I bumped into A (Not the one in physics) on the way to experimental physics (the most boring class ever, all we ever learn is remember your units). I told A this earlier so when I said I'm going to experimental physics and wasn't happy, she said that "everything gets better". I replied "No things don't, what about degenerative muscle conditions?" She said that was different because the definition was that it worsens over time. I said "You said everything, that encompasses everything." She saw my point but we were playfully arguing. I then said "It'll get worse, just like each time I talk with you". She then said "Fine, I hope your physics class will get worse and worse" right when I said "Have a nice day!". She said "You too" as I biked away (I had my bike).

I probably didn't need to neg, and the AFC part in me makes me want to think I fucked up, but what I really did was prevent buyer's remorse and made her much more receptive for when I ask her out. If I was in the other position and if she was the one who negged me, it would build attraction. This is how I need to think.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:44 am 
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Your last post was much better than most of your journal posts in that you're actually giving us something to work with.

As far as Negging goes, in my experience and studies never neg a person for no reason, other than with tongue-in-cheek "irresistible asshole" comments. IE: "so do you consider yourself a nice person? (yes) That's too bad... i hear mean girls have more fun" (then smirk and give her a "just bullshitting you" look) The only time you want to Neg a woman is to "punish" her for saying something rude, mean, etc, and always in a fun way. If she negs you first, you neg her back. NEVER neg a person when they are trying to be pleasant or friendly, you'll just come off as the bad kind of asshole and she'll start thinking that every time she opens her mouth you're just going to give her shit.

How much kino are you using while talking to these women? You've had multiple interactions with A, but if you haven't been physically escalating to at least the point of resting your hand on her while you're talking, you're definitely going to lose your chance for any intimate relations with her. No Keno, No Sex.

You're definitely improving though, just remember the difference between an AFC and an novice artist is that an AFC will repeat his failed actions time and time again (the definition of insanity) while the artist will learn from his mistakes, find what works for him, and work on improving what worked.

How many woman Are you opening in the day? You need to remove the mindset of "going out daygaming". Whenever you're out, simply open as many people as possible, and being on a campus is perfect for that. Someone sitting on a bench reading a book? open them. Someone running off in a rush? turn around and jog next to them and open. There is no such thing as "too much" opening.

One last thing, goes along with day game. Making a friend is ten times easier than seducing someone, and you can never have too many friends. If a woman isn't responding to you with IOIs or any signs of sexual attraction, then simply put yourself in her "friend zone". Then go from being in the "friend zone" to becoming a good friend (which is as simple as being a good person). Female friends will introduce you to all of her female friends, all of whom will be more than happy helping you hook up. The more females in your life, the more sex you'll get.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:29 pm 
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Thanks Reeferchief. I found your post helpful. I've noticed I've been having trouble with Kino. The one time I was rubbing J's leg, she didn't seem to mind but I can't do it naturally.

I guess with kino the only way to improve is practice. The issue is that fucking up opening or something isn't nearly as bad as screwing up kino. It's creepy.

With negging, I was following the mystery method a bit. I do prefer stealth attraction but Mystery's tips are useful.

So anyway,

Field Report:

I was flirting with this Brazilian chick (yes another one). It was wierd because she was timid at first but then just started negging me as soon as her friends came. Her friends liked me so they disagreed with her. I N-Closed but didn't build up enough tension so that she would be exited about me texting her.

With this other girl, I realized how much progress I made since my nerdy ass self in the summer to being comfortable with flirting. She was at the front desk at my Dorm and I saw her looking at me. I used the rugby shorts opener (which I have perfected) and then straight up said that I saw her checking me out. She turned red and started shaking her head. The conversation was a bit fuzzy but I decided to be myself. I didn't hide my intelligence, or the geeky things that I was into. I saw that she was wearing a cross and said "Oh, you're a christian?" She said "Yeah, I'm religious." I then said "Ah, I'm a devout athiest" and pretended to lose interest in her (I know that it's kinda a fucked up thing to do with religion). She replied with "I'm not that religious." The religion stuff ended there. She was giving me major IOI's. twirling her hair, laughing, just making it obvious. I probably stuck around for a bit too long but when I left there was still serious attraction.

It's hard to put how well it went on paper. It seems like I didn't do well on this one (because the entire conversation is a bit fuzzy) but she was really into me by the end.

So I have opening down, but escalation is something I need to work on. I just feel uncomfortable here. Then again, I used to feel uncomfortable with flirting. Any advice for working on escalation and kino?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:16 am 
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This is the best mindset to have for escalation : Always want, never need. The majority of women aren't going to tell you when they're ready to be escalated, so it's up to you. The best way to go about escalation is to start with kino, in fact the less verbal escalation in the beggining the better. The Dicarlo escalation ladder is great as a "blueprint" for starting out, and really as long as you don't look like a creeper while you're doing it, most women enjoy being touched. In fact, physical touch is wired into the minds of both men and women as a positive and nurturing experience. As long as your hands are relaxed and gentle, you can get away with testing the waters. Just don't treat kino like a big deal and neither will she.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:58 am 
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I just have a funny story that's going to play with gaming in my dorm.

So apparently (due to my rugby apparel) people think that I'm a really competitive racquetball player, and my name happens to rhyme with that so I have a new nickname.

I bumped into A but she was in a rush. I am thinking about texting her to bring some stuff for chai lattes (she said that she likes them) but I think I'll just ask her the next time I bump into each other.

I met a new girl (who I'll call H2 if that isn't taken. If it is, crap). She seemed kinda into me.

So today we had an open mike event at my dorm. I pretended to be a pro racquetball player. I got a lot of laughs. A few girls came up to me and said that I was funny. Before the event I bumped into H2 and for whatever reason she seemed way more into me. She said that I should do the racquetball thing for her because she couldn't make it. I said we'll bump into each other some other time.

I've noticed that body language helps a lot with flirting. That and what you wear. The rugby shirt I was wearing today fits tightly and complements me well.

Anyway, nothing that important, but I'm pretty sure it'll play in later.

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I have Mono right now so Fuck...

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So I think I fucked up things with H2 (Who i'm gonna call Hannah, the other H's name is Hannah as well), but I walked into my mates room and his roommate had 2 other guy friends and Hannah there. This one wierd guy started asking all these wierd questions like when was the last time you jerked (I said summer). When he asked me why I said that it was because I had little need too since college started if you know what I mean (Yeah, It was a lie, but Mystery said don't be the desperate virgin). I said I hooked up with two girls and he said he never kissed a chick. I don't know how this will impact things with Hannah, she'll probably have her ASD up around me now.

So regardless of the Mono, I decided to go out. I was just practicing on a fat chick and she kept on "subtly" touching my leg. It isn't subtle. Maybe I've made this mistake in the past. Maybe Kino isn't always so natural. There needs to be some verbal escalation at least.

I met this chick named Meg. AFC-Joe CB'd me a few times when I tried to sit down next to her playing life. I'll need to talk to him about this. Before we were bowling and she was giving minor IOI's. I used the shower line with singing and masturbating and it worked.

I'm pissed about Joe Cock Blocking me though.

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So I found myself with some free time this weekend and read the first half of the game. I realized how much I've been doing wrong. Yesterday (before I started the book). I opened on a group and opened with my target. She invited me to a movie night thing that wasn't planned yet, but I realized I would have done better if I opened the group and negged her.

I can sarge a women who is alone but when it comes to sets I don't do so well.

And I belive I'm finally going to that club today.

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So I came back from a surplus store and a candy store (the candy store to get some ginger beer). At the surplus store I flirted with the chick (an HB 6) and she seemed into me.

At the candy store I chickened out. She was pretty hot and I just wasn't feeling my best. I should have said something but kinda broke the 3 second rule. I don't know why I've been down on my luck recently, probably because I have both Mono and a throat infection.

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