You two are clearly in love.

I think skills and Dtrak should have a dance battle, like this:

http://youtu.be/8qyyJBYfnwA

The winner get's crowned the dance game guru.

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Surely you have had girls that will dance with you even if she isn't sexually attracted to you, Just like, girls with boyfriends will talk to you.

It's still 'game over' regarding the girl is concerned but sometimes I have danced with taken girls only to be pointed to a single girl of the group and encouraged by her friends, so not always a waste of time from my experience.

I have also successfully danced with a girl by just taking her hand. It's risky but it is bold and will work when you're in state and the belief is present. Sometimes you get no choice since the impenetrable dance circle with her back facing the crowd makes it super hard to get in there. I understand you have been doing it for 20 years but game isn't a linear thing. Too many variables. There is more than one way to skin a cat. I've even got laid by talking to the girls back in my noob days

If you both are serious about advice. Try infields - it will massively spike up your YouTube channels. At least with skills - you have a girl in the video but still, she still isn't going to reject you since it's not organic.

Dtrak, like I mentioned, giving advice walking down your local street will be taken more serious if there were practical demonstrations.

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Yup, be on the look out for that, dropping solid infields with commentary within the next few weeks

Thanks for the feedback everyone, and keep pimpin dat dancefloor

5+4 = 9
3×3 = 9
8+1 = 9

Theres more than one way to do things fellas, implement these techniques and game on !

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^ of course that was not my point if you go on the dance floor from behind and tap a girl in the shoulder, it does not give you the odds, better probability of working as going at an angle from the front, you are taking what i am saying out of context, as i said what we do as seducer is increasing the ODDS. You are a girl a dude comes from behind, you feel a tap you got a turn around, you are at her mercy, is not efficient. Go out and try it...
is called mingling, what does that has to do with my point? i do the same.
I can have 1 year, 20 years, 100 years, we are talking about probability of something working, grabbing her hand gives you low probability of success vs. other stuff like forcing approach invites, gently grabbing her hands works well with latin beats, or latin music, in high energy techno for example to go in and grab her hand gives you very low probability of success...

Infields cost a lot of money, invades your privacy, and i already had people from the community go out with me and see what i do in person, and plenty of guys getting laid following my advice. A lot of infield is bs, bunch of guys hire actresses, and/or tape their best approaches. Not interested! The best 2 seduction books out there are 60 yoc and mark manson models, neither dude have infields.

Anything works, you can grab girls hands, you can tap on her shoulder, you can yell at her "dog"(Julian rsd does this), you can say or do whatever and it works is all in the subcommunication.

But in the dance floor, there are some things that work better than other, there is more to dance floor game which includes:

1 club dynamics/stage of the night
2.- venue
3- Body language/approach invites
4.-mingling
5.- Demographics
6.- screening

and a lot more....I don't have a problem with the op, other than i was trying to engage in a discussion of his style and his advice, and he attach me personally instead of having a discussion about dance floor game....

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Stop the name calling and just focus on the discussion of the techniques. We want to see all angles; the pros and cons. No need to boot Skills360 out. He's got value that we can all benefit from.

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Only reason I called him a noob troll is because he super downplayed my techniques in his first comments, he didnt want a disccussion, and if he did he rubbed me the wrong way with his super negative view of my techniques.

I said it once and ill say it again, I dont want this to be a thread in which you come in here and pin point someones elses shit and try to downgrade it. You simply state your case in a friendly matter and let the viewer decide what works for them, hence all the angles.

The dude is 39 I dont think I need to teach him manners do I?

And someone who reacts to being called a "noob troll" like he did doesnt get much credability haha.

Let me shut up befor I get him more mad and he literally comes to my house, he did mention meeting up to fight in some of his posts. What are you in kindergarden?

Anyways, this is funny as hell but im tired of dealing with this dude, lets just keep he thread friendly: How would you guys go about approaching dancefloor sets? (Short paragraphs please and techniques would be great) lets stop trolling and offer value


And heres the link to my dancefloor techniques in case anyone missed it:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZbZRxYD3JE

Enjoy

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I didn't see it that way. He provided his reasons why your technique isn't good. With that said, it's up to us to weigh the pros and cons based on the available information and field test everything.

If you censure the cons, how does that help in the quality of the discussions?

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You're not fit to be a teacher / dating coach if you are incapable of taking constructive criticism. Skills was obviously going to be critical of your stuff, dance floor game is his thing, do some research. That said, perhaps he could've been a bit more tactful with his critique. It escalated quickly and you were both rude to each other.

Swallow your pride and learn. The best teachers accept criticism and never stop learning. I am still a pupil of pickup, I still have holes in my game, yet like many of the veterans on the forum, have slept with / dated hundreds of hot women.

Pickup is a journey with no destination. Be humble and your results will sky rocket. And your students will respect you more if you are able to calmly handle criticism.

Yea, lets just all be friends, trolling eachother is unneccessary, ill just take this moment to apologize to skills for my cosmic reaction and squash the beef, lets talk sum pick up now fellas ! We should all be in this forum to support and help eachother and get sum pussy ! Lets fukin do it baby !!!

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No problem dude, we are cool! i was not trying to put down your techniques, i apologize if it came across that way, I am not one of those dudes that are like ok i do dance floor so nobody else can't, that is scarcity shit!... i honestly just wanted to have a discussion, i think i lost a bit my cool too! if i ever see you in south beach i will buy you a beer... At the end look your post is now in the popular category which is more publicity for you,

I truly was interested in discussing the techniques, for me personally it has never worked out the going for the hand, i did not try it once but many many times, i still go for the grab every once in a blue moon, as i said my last try was on Friday(nothing to do with your post, i saw your post after), and as predicted she pull away the hand, then moved away...Now it works for me REALLY WELL, when they play latin beats like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3rGRL-2zMk

The same with tapping from behind in groups, that one to be honest i have not tried, but i do not see it working, okay, here is my point, lets assume there is a group of 5 girls dancing in a circle. You go to the target and tap her in the back, the other girls will most likely cockblock right away.

anyways man i did not mean to pupu your post, if you notice i jump into most dance floor posts, cause is what i do every weekend, so i like talking about it and trying new things.

The other stuff i was referring is the technique of having a convo in the middle of the dance floor again, i do not see that working... come on picture you in club "space" in downtown miami doing that(i know you probably have been to space), is super hard to pull off. Most of my friends that do verbals do it on the bar, or patio areas, i never seen a guy doing good in the middle of the dance floor with verbals, since the music is so loud and the women are dancing.

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No problem dude, we are cool! i was not trying to put down your techniques, i apologize if it came across that way, I am not one of those dudes that are like ok i do dance floor so nobody else can't, that is scarcity shit!... i honestly just wanted to have a discussion, i think i lost a bit my cool too! if i ever see you in south beach i will buy you a beer... At the end look your post is now in the popular category which is more publicity for you,

I truly was interested in discussing the techniques, for me personally it has never worked out the going for the hand, i did not try it once but many many times, i still go for the grab every once in a blue moon, as i said my last try was on Friday(nothing to do with your post, i saw your post after), and as predicted she pull away the hand, then moved away...Now it works for me REALLY WELL, when they play latin beats like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3rGRL-2zMk

The same with tapping from behind in groups, that one to be honest i have not tried, but i do not see it working, okay, here is my point, lets assume there is a group of 5 girls dancing in a circle. You go to the target and tap her in the back, the other girls will most likely cockblock right away.

anyways man i did not mean to pupu your post, if you notice i jump into most dance floor posts, cause is what i do every weekend, so i like talking about it and trying new things.

The other stuff i was referring is the technique of having a convo in the middle of the dance floor again, i do not see that working... come on picture you in club "space" in downtown miami doing that(i know you probably have been to space), is super hard to pull off. Most of my friends that do verbals do it on the bar, or patio areas, i never seen a guy doing good in the middle of the dance floor with verbals, since the music is so loud and the women are dancing.

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I would like to see the solution to girl groups dancing.. I find these the hardest as typically no one girl will break off from the bunch to dance with a guy.. There are those times when one will pull off from the group and dance (generally the freaky girl of the bunch), but than one of the girls will tend to pull her off back to the group and thus rejection from the group starts.

Ive had success with a wingman (when i have someone with me), who will go around and surround the group, and generally 1 or 2 will open up to dancing with us.. but when its solo, no one wants to leave the others behind.

If i see a decent looking dude on the dance floor, i tend to try to ask him "hey bro lets go get these girls"... some dudes are cool with it, but alot of dudes got no game lol

I personally don't spend too much time picking up girls on the dance floor because that's when they are having "fun" with their friends.

The pickup success is much lower compared to doing the "look at me" technique, which gets results almost 90% of the time.

I want to portray the Alpha Male (Wolf) trait, so when girls see that, they already know I am different.

During my early days on this forum, I've tried tapping from behind more than a dozen times.

Doesn't work.

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