Hi,

I got a match on tinder and as the title suggests I need some help with what I did wrong during the texting.

I tried to be cocky(even though i think it was the minimum amount of cocky any person can be) and it backfired.

I want to know what I did wrong if anything at all, is she being too sensitive or was it my mistake??

I dont want to loose chicks this easily, is there anything I can do to get back on track? she called me a douche how do i get back without escalating to a fight. Is it even possible to get back after some girl calls you that

Thanks

Edit: The attachment thing is not working so here is the conversation

me:Hey gorgeous
her:Haha hey there

me:You look scary with the gun(she was posing with a gun in one of her pics)
her:Thanks?

me:Promise me you wont bring it with you to our date
her:Oh and who said we are going on a date?

me:You are right I havent decided If I want to take you out yet
her:Wow cocky and a douche, great start so far

me:Wow you are way too sensitive, watch your words
her:(No response yet)

hey mate we have to know what you said that you felt backfired before we can help you post your convo I'll take a look at it and see what I can tell you.

I posted the screenshots from my phone, but I cant see them why is that??

Bump

me:Hey gorgeous Generic, but still can work

her:Haha hey there Good response

me:You look scary with the gun(she was posing with a gun in one of her pics) Negs are not your bag, punishing good behaviour which is a bad idea

her:Thanks? She got a little defensive, you should calibrate on your next response

me:Promise me you wont bring it with you to our date This is where it goes wrong, you are too easy and not a challenge, next time go for the meet up on a high note instead of a low note

her:Oh and who said we are going on a date? **SHIT TEST**

me:You are right I havent decided If I want to take you out yet You failed the shit test by crumbling your frame to match hers which is repulsive to women, you could at least held your frame that she still wants to date you. Don't change your original frame to match somebody elses agenda

her:Wow cocky and a douche, great start so far You're toast

me:Wow you are way too sensitive, watch your words Flogging a dead horse, how is this response going to flip it around? lol

her:(No response yet) You're expecting a reply? lol




Next time be more of a challenge man, get some qualification in there, for example:

"Tinder doesn't mention anything about people, so let me ask you, what do your friends say about your personality?

Or

"Why are on here? you must be crazy in real life or something?"

Next time, try to be cool, cheeky and wait till she is asking you questions. Then follow a qualifier in there and then ask her if she is up for a drink with you sometime and get her number

its pretty easy. I do very well doing it this way.

hope this helps, Good luck

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Thanks a lot man that was very detailed,
So negging should be used only when she is being bitchy?
Also I thought I responded well to the shit test, I thought that's how you show you are the prize and abundance mentality is it not?

You don't to use negs on tinder since there is mutual attraction from the start

I don't think I have ever used a neg in my life

You need to understand sub communication, your response broke your own frame to make her happy

You duplicated with your words if that makes sense

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I was never good back in the day with phone game. It's something I have been working on lately.

So I've been working on my phone game and escalation. I normally don't do this, but I'd like to share a conversation I had last night. None of this is canned I just rolled with it. I've been trying to do that as well and all of the stuff I've picked up about the game in the last month is really starting to show it's results. A number I got from earlier in the week.

So a few texts in our conversation this girl says she is a blunt person who can be a little wild at times.

I ask, what's your definition of wild?

I guess you'll just have to find out. lol

I respond with: I think I have a good idea.

She replies Oh really?

Me: I guess you'll just have to find out. lol

Hahaha that bothers me. I want to know!

I respond: I know you do.

I precede to talk and make her laugh yada yada yada, push and pull, throw some fluff in there, build some more comfort getting to know her on a personal level. Make her laugh a lot giving ridiculously goofy answers she doesn't expect to the questions she asks me. (what's the craziest thing you've ever done? I say I ran a yellow light once) then later in the conversation we talk about hanging out sometime soon.

I say it would be fun to hangout together, do you like listening to stories?

omg I love stories

I tell her, I tell the best bed time stories. (she has already given some undertone sexual IOIs in previous texts)

I want to hear one. R you going to tell me one now or in person? (She lives in my Hometown, but wants to travel to see me soon)

They are much better in person, I like to talk with my hands a lot. (now she knows my intentions for sure, but i'm not coming straight out saying we should fuck)

Since it's a bedtime story will you also tuck me in as well? (and game over)

Of course It wouldn't be a proper bedtime story if I didn't. depending on how well you like'd the story, I might even give you a good night kiss

Haha I'm sure I'l love your story. if not i'll at least pretend to so I get my kiss!! (qualifying herself)

My stories are very entertaining. No pretending necessary.

She tells me she is pretty excited and doesn't want to wait. sigh...



We continue to throw the ball back and fourth and she is coming to see me in a few weeks. I had only talked to her a few brief times on my phone and FB before this. Normally i'd never escalate that quickly and I'd question what she would think, should I do it, yada yada yada. It's all in how you word things.

I think you shouldn't be really cocky unless you are confident you can pull it off. I'm a pretty cocky person, but i'm not a dick. At least not all the time. It's fine if you fuck up. Take this convo you had on tender, and listen to PEBBLE's advice, it's on point. He knows whats up.

Speaking of, what would you say to that shit test Pebble? I fucked myself one time being my cocky self in a similar situation. after chillin a bit with a girl I asked for her number, normally I don't say shit like this. I just tried it out to see where the line was. "You're pretty cute, What's your number? I want to call you sometime." I think it would have worked but im sure I fucked up the shit test she replied with: "what makes you think I want you to call me?" I just said, "Don't try to play that game, I know you're attracted to me." I could have recovered it later in the night but I kept rolling with the cocky attitude I had and didn't calibrate... I was drinking too much. lol