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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:50 pm 
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The first time I met her, I fingered her, we were spooning, the only reason we did not fuck was because I didn't get a hardon. I thought, well, next time. Unfortunately, next time wasn't the following day, as she had some reasons to not do it. Now, after a lot of back and forth, we managed to meet at my place. It started the same way it went on the first time. But this time she blocked me when I was trying to undress her. She said something about some guy, she knew and that this would be the reason for her to leave soon. I tried to pretend that I wasn't affected by it and did not touch her, just to talk about something else and then started touching her again, trying to finger her, trying to touch her breasts - something she was not at all against the first time we met. Now every time I did it, she moved my hand away.

How do you deal with that "I have to go soon" or "I have to go"? I simply ignored it and tried again and again after talking and physically leaving to go to the kitchen. Having repeated this circle, she left, having this weird look on her face as if she wanted to say "Is it okay for you if I leave?".

No, of course it's not okay. But I remembered, that I shouldn't show any signs of anger or attachment, so teeth-gnashingly I said: "I am surprised, that you leave". Then she went out, always having this weird look of permission-seeking, like "is it really okay?".

So when she said, that there is somebody else or some other reason, that is not important to me, for her to leave, what should I do? I think we can all agree that I should ignore it and freeze out, but at the same time I ask, what the subtext is. What is she really saying by this, what do I have to do IN DETAIL to keep her and to fuck her?

PS: she said: "I have to tell you something but you probably don't care: there is this guy I am seeing. And I'm thinking about him, and I cannot stop thinking about him" At least she got the part in printed in bold right.

It made me feel like she met him later and he did so well with her that I was just a worthless piece of shit in her eyes. Damn, thinking that makes me feel low.

PS: Is there any use for me in texting her and asking, whether she got to know him before or after we met for the first time? Is it better to say next time in a similar situation: "Listen, I invited you over to have sex with you. As you don't want that, go fuck yourself(If she keeps showing resistance), don't call me again and if you give me that "is it okay"-look again, knowing very well that it's not, I'll punch you." Not to keep her but to regain one's composure. If no, you need to give a reason. If yes, too.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:30 am 
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Now every time I did it, she moved my hand away.
you're coming on way to hard. you make it sound like your not even kissing her but trying to initiate sex with an uninterested party.
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How do you deal with that "I have to go soon" or "I have to go"?
If she wants to leave, she can leave.
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I simply ignored it and tried again and again after talking and physically leaving to go to the kitchen
Sounds like you're desperately begging.
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"I am surprised, that you leave".

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So when she said, that there is somebody else or some other reason, that is not important to me, for her to leave, what should I do? I think we can all agree that I should ignore it and freeze out, but at the same time I ask, what the subtext is. What is she really saying by this, what do I have to do IN DETAIL to keep her and to fuck her?
She's saying she's not there just for sex.
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PS: she said: "I have to tell you something but you probably don't care: there is this guy I am seeing. And I'm thinking about him, and I cannot stop thinking about him"
You've underplayed your interest in her, if you had any. She's obviously not DTF casually, on tap.
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It made me feel like she met him later and he did so well with her that I was just a worthless piece of shit in her eyes. Damn, thinking that makes me feel low.
He's not just meeting her for sex. He's actually interested in seeing her rather than getting his dick wet.
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PS: Is there any use for me in texting her and asking, whether she got to know him before or after we met for the first time?
That's just needy
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Is it better to say next time in a similar situation: "Listen, I invited you over to have sex with you. As you don't want that, go fuck yourself (If she keeps showing resistance), don't call me again and if you give me that "is it okay"-look again, knowing very well that it's not, I'll punch you."
That's the sort of thing that gets you a restraining order.
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Not to keep her but to regain one's composure.
Composure? That will totally blow your composure.

Stop stroking your ego and take rejection like a man.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:50 pm 
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Dude you're talking about cursing a girl out and threatning her with physical violence wtf?!? The above poster is right, but damn man I think you have some other issues that need to be resolved if you have thoughts of countering rejection with physical violence. However if you see her again take on a date build the necesary comfort that's what's lacking have fun and make her want to see you more than the other guy. He wants her for more than sex you want her for sex she seems like a relationship minded girl so she's gonna go with the other guy unless you present yourself as the better option.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:20 pm 
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Dude you're talking about cursing a girl out and threatning her with physical violence wtf?!?...but damn man I think you have some other issues that need to be resolved if you have thoughts of countering rejection with physical violence.
If you had the opportunity to punch a girl who behaves like that towards you and get away with it, you would do it without any hesitation. Don't be a hypocrite.
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The above poster is right
The above poster is destructive and assumes the worst. Above that, he is wrong and you know it.
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However if you see her again take on a date build the necesary comfort that's what's lacking have fun and make her want to see you more than the other guy. He wants her for more than sex you want her for sex she seems like a relationship minded girl so she's gonna go with the other guy unless you present yourself as the better option.
You don't know whether he wants her for more than sex. You don't know whether I want her for more than sex. You, like the other guy, assume it. That the other guy could just have gone for it - maybe he had a hardon and fucked her right and now I have to prove that I can do that, too and even better than the other guy - does or does not cross your mind. Either way you make the same mistake as the previous poster, you assume the worst. Don't do that, it's not just factually wrong but also also a waste of my and your time.


@Ardour: There is no avail of assuming the worst.

Everything you assume is trying to put me in the worst light possible. This is no help, this is destructive assumption of the worst while trying to portray you as holy, like you would never do it.

That helps nobody. I repeat: nobody.

I am not here to read your insecurities. You are blocked.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:59 pm 
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Not a chance in this world I would raise my hand in a harmful manner towards a woman especially for something as petty as behaving in a way I don't approve of. As far as the hypocrite comment I kindly ask you to read over what you just posted about making assumptions and then ask yourself who is the real hypocrite.

All the best.


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OP: You're a total and complete fucking moron.

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Not a chance in this world I would raise my hand in a harmful manner towards a woman especially for something as petty as behaving in a way I don't approve of. As far as the hypocrite comment I kindly ask you to read over what you just posted about making assumptions and then ask yourself who is the real hypocrite.

All the best.
What an immature person you are...
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You're a total and complete fucking moron.
That's what your mum said to you. And she was right.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:07 pm 
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You're a loser, straightforward. "I'll punch you"? Are you fucking crazy?!

Seriously. Every single one of your posts are mind bogglingly fucked up. As everyone ends up saying to you: You haven't the slightest fucking clue on how to treat women... Fuck that, not just women but ANYONE. Your interpersonal skills on a scale of 1-10 is minus(-)11.

Go seek out a therapist.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:22 pm 
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Ok, so for a second time you have asked advice then just fucking ragged on anyone who has been considerate enough to help.

I'm sorry if my reply struck a chord by pointing out your flaws but I've actually made no unjust assumptions at all.

Threatening to punch a girl because she doesn't want to fuck you is just disgusting. I'm considering checking your basement for that underage girl who rejected you.

And for the love of god please tell me you don't live anywhere near a sorority.Tri Delta have already suffered enough.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:25 pm 
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Not a chance in this world I would raise my hand in a harmful manner towards a woman especially for something as petty as behaving in a way I don't approve of. As far as the hypocrite comment I kindly ask you to read over what you just posted about making assumptions and then ask yourself who is the real hypocrite.

All the best.
What an immature person you are...
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OP: You're a total and complete fucking moron.
Oh, go fuck yourself.[/quo

I'm terribly sorry, but I fail to see the immaturity in my post. However you seem like an incredibly andry individual I truly hope you find peace.

All the best.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:22 pm 
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What the fuck did I just read?

Dude is trolling, right?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:25 pm 
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Pikeman85, another holier-than-thou-faggot.


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Straightforward you have to get yourself under control, this desire to compare yourself with another guy is "Wussy Behavior" You have ALOT of maturing to do & should spend time working on your passions in life versus hopping into bed with some girl thinking she will fulfill you.

Get a life, go out & make friends with 10 other people & this "Unicorn Girl" will become a distant memory.

Learn to let go, no one woman can give you what you need.

Go find another girl & change your tampon dude.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:41 pm 
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Straightforward you have to get yourself under control
Are you afraid of me? Why else would you care?
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this desire to compare yourself with another guy is "Wussy Behavior"
Which is why I didn't.
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You have ALOT of maturing to do
What about no.
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should spend time working on your passions in life
Finding Your Passion is a Myth
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hopping into bed with some girl thinking she will fulfill you.
That's what you are assuming and you are wrong.
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Get a life
I already have a great life by my standards.
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go out
I go out daily already.
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this "Unicorn Girl" will become a distant memory.
True. My goal is not to get her back, my goal is to find out how to do better next time.
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Learn to let go
Again, a wrong assumption. I already know how to do that, which you should know reading my other posts.
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no one woman can give you what you need.
That's why I like the idea of MLTR.
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Go find another girl
My goal anyways. But I won't repeat the same mistakes with the next girl.
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change your tampon dude.
Have consulting if you find that last one funny.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:16 pm 
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Seriously though. What is your impression of yourself? Do you see yourself as this magical prize that any women would be lucky to meet? Should she be on her knees the moment she sees you?

I'm intrigued by your psychological state. Have you ever heard of Narcissistic Personality Disorder? You obviously have some deep seated issues with women, rejection in particular. I sincerely hope you don't drive a BMW.

I feel sorry for you. I really do. Sincerely I urge you to speak to someone before you decide to write a manifesto and youtube vlog.


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