Hi guys,hello from Vancouver Canada and a big thanks for all those who like to help out.
I've looked through the forum and couldn't find a similar question.
FWIW I'm 6'2/200,work out every day,friendly,ENTP,etc

I'm great with talking to the 8's+ that I know or who have been introduced to, but going to pubs and clubs and even just being out and around most of them have closed off body language:
-having a bitch-fest about guys
-folded arms
-negative look on their face
-often wearing rings yet single
-mixed messages
-etc etc

Yet they'll flirt guys for drinks,and I tend to avoid them if they flirt with me after all of this. Why reward the behviour,I figure.

Does one ignore the "fk- off -leave- me- alone" body language or try to break through?

Thanks a ton in advance for any advice.

Regards

Personally, I'll approach in most cases if I am interested. Body language is a powerful tool but if you focus on it to much, you convince yourself of reasons why you shouldn't approach, as you are currently doing.

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Dave185,

It looks like what you are referring to is a "bitch shield".

Remember man, attractive women are used to getting approached, and over time they have developed techniques that say: "Do not approach me unless you are a high-value guy."

You can actually use this negative body language to your benefit... here are a few solutions.

1. Pawning:

Bring a girl with you, and have her open the set for you... and introduce you into the group. This is by far the most effective technique, however it requires that you have a girl wing.

2. DHV

Remember this phrase: "Looks are just a shit-test."

The same goes for negative body language. These women want to find the guy who has the balls to take charge, if you approach with enough leadership, use false time constraints, and display DHV you will be able to break through that no problem.

3. Neg, Bait, Switch, Repeat.

"Oh hey, my ex-girlfriend has that same dress!", followed by...
"But you seem much nicer than her...I could be wrong though..." <--- at this point she will either be a total bitch, or will smile.
"Hi, I'm ____" -> and run whatever routine you have selected for that night.



Hope the above helps, Happy Sarging!

Fuck this kids played out games. Grab your balls and talk to her.

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How cute Zack

If you take a look at the original posters question you will see he was asking if he should ignore the body language or break through it, which to me shows that he is looking for some techniques in order to be able to actually do that.

"Grab your balls and talk to her." Great, yes, I agree that getting past AA is important... but I don't think that is his primary concern here.

My advice still stands, cheers