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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:18 am 
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So it happens to us all, sometimes you neg, qualify her and she doesn't really care. You know what I mean, she's cold and doesn't flirt back or respond properly.
She'll act not interested or doesn't comply.

Ex: What do you got going for you more than looks
Her: Nothing

Just one common issue out of the many

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:25 am 
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Wtf? Dude, if it's not part of a shit test, then thank her for her time and move on. She doesn't like you.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:45 pm 
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Obviously. I'm assuming its apart of her shield or a test.
And even if she's attracted sometimes she won't comply to major things.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:34 pm 
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I've been there too. What you probably do wrong is that you try too hard having a conversation with someone who doesn't want to or is a grouch. This is what you should do:

1. As a newbie, making the mistake to approach a girl like that, ditch her ASAP, as soon as you find out she doesn't give a fuck. She is not worth your time and energy.

2. When more experienced, don't approach her in the first place. She doesn't deserve it.

3. If you for some weird reason still want to have her (for the sake of the challenge, say), you need to make her attracted to you BEFORE you approach her. How do you do that? If there is even the slightest chance, you should approach her INDIRECTLY. That means to talk to everybody else in the place, make everyone else like you and accept you. Give her no reason to dislike you. If you are the center of the party, and everyone likes being with you, she will realize she is a bitch if she doesn't loosen up. Sooner or later you will either be introduced to her, or she will approach you. In the extreme case (if you are neither introduced or approached), you will find it weird to not say hello to her if you have already been talking to everyone else in the place, so you can as well just give her a nod and a "hello" and let her do the next move.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:43 pm 
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Yeah, that's a pretty solid IOD.

Don't even waste your time or energy. Some girls just simply won't be attracted to you.


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Don't neg. I've been around this community for a while and I still don't see the point of this. Why take a shot at someone you're already above.

And the beauty of our society is that women don't have to have anything going for them other than looks. For a man to be respected in this world he has to get out there and bust his ass. He has to work hard, be charismatic, display confidence, and be recognized for the work he put in. For a woman to be respected in this world. She just has to be beautiful. Its our culture. Its silly, but it is what it is. She could of dropped out high school, she could stab all her friends in the back, and do absolutely nothing with her life. And yet she will still get the same amount of adoration when she walks down the street as a Famous Rock Star, who has worked his ass of to be at the top, who plays shows and practices every day and night to ensure he is the greatest. And that same shitty woman can marry the rockstar, and elevate to his level. Just like that. Men that marry famous women aren't elevated. You don't even know who they are.

And its for those reasons above that you should never put a woman above you. You have the ability to elevate her status to its highest level.

When a King marrys a woman what does she become? Even if she is the lowest woman of all time. She becomes queen(the highest she can be). If a queen marrys a man, even if he is a decent level man, what does he become? Nothing. He is just the queens husband. If there is no king before the queen, there will be no queen before the king.

You're better than her. Why do you have to neg her?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:21 am 
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I had something similar this week on Tinder.
I opened, had her laughing and it was going well. I moved the convo on by quoting a few facts from her profile and then continued with
"...but what makes you an interesting person?"
"When did I say I was one?"
"Surely you don't consider yourself a boring person? That would just be tragic!"

She then wrote a massive bit on what she was doing currently and a few of her long term aspirations. Conversation continued.

Personally I wouldn't call that a neg. It's definitely a backhanded compliment, but a neg is a negative comment disguised as a compliment, no? Something like "I like how your broad shoulders really help emphasise that beautiful coat you're wearing."

You've said shes good looking and asked about her personality in an abrupt, cocky way. (I hope that wasn't your opener.) It's just a case of early low interest, you just have to get her to engage in the conversation.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:00 am 
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Listen up you fucking morons. Not every girl is gonna fancy you, want to be around you or even fucking likes you. Get over it instead of playing your stupid, fucking mind games. Christ you cunts come across as needy cry babies forever moaning that not all girls are into you. Well boo fucking hoo. Deal with it and just fucking move on for the love of God instead of whinging and whining and plotting to get some dumb ass revenge on her. Don't be a whiney, little boy all your fucking life. It's not a good look. You discredit girls and bring them down at your peril. Most of them are far more fucking intelligent and far smarter than you fucking childish assholes on here.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:07 pm 
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Ever heard of Juggler's 90-10% theory? It says before you warm her up into the conversation, you have to do 90% of the talking, here is a conversation I had yesterday with a hottie, it was on facebook but what the hell:

Me: I just was on your profile pictures and I've seen them all. I got to say have an intuition about you
- Really
- Yeah, my friends say I'm never wrong
- Ok
- I'm serious, it amazes them how most of the times I am right. And when I look at you I do see things
- What things
- I see a deeply adventurous spirit that is to often not let free, mostly because of society's expectations
I go on: I knew a girl once, an artist, in whom I saw the same thing, she came up with a beautiful and exciting idea to free herself of the bonds that are put upon us
- Wow
- Yeah what do you think of what I just said?
- I think it's great
- Oh my god, you suck!! lol
- Lol ok
- You got to help me out here, I'm trying to have a conversation
- Um then what would you like to talk about
- I like girls who have no problem opening up to new strangers, I think it means they're totally secure with themselves
- Ya I guess but some people are just shy
- Yes, and some, just like to turn the bitch mode on very often lol
Which one's you?
- I'm just shy
- And pretty, isn't that cute?
- Thanks
- Yeah, but looks are not everything
- Ya
- What's something interesting I can know about you?
- I can put my leg over my head idk
What's something interesting about you


Then the conversation went for more than half an hour, and we're meeting saturday
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:02 pm 
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Don't neg. I've been around this community for a while and I still don't see the point of this.
I suspect it started out with Mystery observing banter, and he misunderstood it, and invented negs.
Negs are actually pretty similar to how banter can sometimes end up. And that is indeed often a sign of attraction. Unfortunately, Mystery is a bit like Michael Jackson, in that he's generally a nice guy, but he's weird and he sees the world in a way that is very different from how it actually is.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:44 pm 
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Yeah, that's a pretty solid IOD.

Don't even waste your time or energy. Some girls just simply won't be attracted to you.
This is the correct answer. If she seems not interested its because she isn't.

If a woman is interested in you she will make it easy to seduce her.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:40 pm 
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Don't neg. I've been around this community for a while and I still don't see the point of this. Why take a shot at someone you're already above.
So much this. In all honesty, I have always seen negging as something males of lower value do to try to "cheat" their way up to girls that are out of their league. Cocky and funny is where it's at, make things about yourself.

That being said, I have always been a firm defendant of the idea that every guy has a chance to get with almost any girl he wants if he plays it right. But that "playing it right" should include a lot of self improvement work and less negging.

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