k, ive gotten all the ioi's from this girl. and shes finally agreed to hangout with me this coming weekend.

- shes now texting me and messaging me every day.
- texts me at the most random times about anything... in class, during work break, when im about to go to sleep, after school, during her lunch break, 2am drunk dial
- she initiates all of our conversations
- she always re-initiates our conversations after i stop talking. just to break the silence
- tells me how she never sees me anymore
- told me to call her (i did once)
- teases me
- never mentioned having a bf to me

however shes been changing stuff on her myspace trying to imply that she already likes this other guy. but she is still talking to me all the time.

shes been making her status "tired... talking to (other guy) then bed!"
"talking to (other guy)!!! then bed!!" "ahh.. waiting for him to call.. like usual.. bed soon!"

she did this a few times about a week and a half ago. but yesterday she was texting me and i gave her a good a3 kinda txt. and later she messaged me on msn right away while changing her status thing.

and shes posted a couple of bulleteins saying that this guy was the last person she kissed. and yes that she likes him. and that her relationship status is "complicated.. but single".

also read that this guy asked her to lunch today.

seems shes obviously stuck between the two of us and she wants me to read all of this. but she has not ONCE directly mentioned to me that she likes someone or has a bf. in fact, saturday she told me she was only going out with her gf, i found out later that she was actually with this guy and a few others. like shes trying to hide it from me but wants me to know at the same time?

i told her she has to call me next time. and she says she will, and she also told me that she wanted to hang out this weekend.

anyways, continue like i dont even know? and win her over?
or confront her about it? bfdestroy this dude?

any suggestions? thanks

well, this one is obvious..

if you like her, and she likes you, then you should Def-Nut-LY destroy the sorta boyfriend.. after all Social Darwinism always wins.. and in your case, you should have no problem.

good luck

id AMOG the boyfriend, but only to an extent not to look needy. I'd get the edge over him but not push it too far

Pull . . . the . . . fucking . . . trigger . . . immediately with her! lol

You push things with her man. Completely, solidly, irreversibly close the deal with her. Make her yours. Don't even worry about the other guy. Act like he's not even there, much less competition. I think you're moving to slow right now.

28000 days to live and you are going to waste one wondering about another guy in the way? forget him destroy him if he hasn't pulled the trigger then he has missed his chance I definately like the AMOG idea above

lol thanks. i just wanted to see what the best idea was. right now im acting like i have not even seen this stuff. btw, she texted me today right after school cuz i wasnt very responsive to her yesterday.

i want to neg her on not being able to call me. but she was at work so it wouldnt have worked then.

and ive done some research in the forums, but does anybody have any clever tidbits to destroy this guy? i dont see them together so it would have to be communicating to her only.

thanks guys

Try showing LOTS and LOTS of DHV or better yet go around her at a time when you KNOW he will be there too if you show lots of DHV he will feel threatened and attempt to show you up which is a DLV you need to outwit this oponent since it appears he might be in a better position with her than you at the moment OR

you should do the complete opposite and get her alone (with him not around he won't be able to attempt to counteract your DHV spikes) you dont specifically ask her to go out with you somewhere casually mention things you are going to do if you know her well enough say im going to the super big awesome action movie later but dont directly invite her you want her to ask you can I come? for example:
You: I am going to see the notebook and bought one too many tickets think melissa (<---not the girl you are currently talking to) would want to go?(or whatever)
Her: oh I really wanted to see that! You have an extra ticket why don't you let me come with you?
You: *sighs* I guess but you CANNOT be this clingy and needy while we are in the movies (roll off) OR Whoa slow down if you are going to hit on me you might as well do it right and confess the fact that you are infatuated with me.
Her: (left wanting more)
if you know her you should easily be able to find out something that she wants to go and do thats the best I have for now I will try and think up a couple more things for you.

YOU are too focused on this guy. You may be more focused on him than SHE is. Don't worry about him man. YOU give her such a good time that SHE doesn't think about him. YOU push the envelope with her, kino her, tease her, etc, and give her enough of your attention that she KNOWS you like her. Push the boundaries. Kiss her. See how far she's willing to go. You could fully close her next time you're out with her, if you try!

I have a girl that I go out with on the weekends at times, and will be regularly now, and she has a b/f that she's been with for years. However, we go out, she has a blast with me, and her b/f is never mentioned. I don't care about her b/f. He's not even on my mind. She does her thing while we're out. I do mine. And, we have fun together.

And here is the benefit of experience over youth! I totally agree. All the youngun's out there - stop stressin' and go for it. Life is far too short to worry about the consequences of our actions (so long as those actions don't actually include killing people!!!). Life is what YOU make it, we are all in the matrix, and if you can just step outside of it, all of a sudden the whole thing becomes, just as Mr Strauss suggests, a game.

Go for it, and who the f"ck cares whether she chooses him or you? She chooses him, her friggin' loss. She chooses you - just make sure you don't lose yourself in the 'one-itis' that I detect all ova your post.

Best wishes

Sensei

im trying either way. i didnt mean to ask if i should give up, i meant carry on and keep gaming. i didnt even think about giving up.

the whole purpose of my post was just to see if i should even change my game due to me knowing about him or not.

but now that thats settled.

yea i guess without her mentioning him, all i can do is show her big DHV and a good time. she texts me all the time now. ive only initiated the talking maybe 2 times. while she messages me, n texts me all the time.

should i start returning the favor? or just give her less, but quality attention. not so much qauntity? if that makes sense

Ok, I'm gonna say it again . . . listen this time, lol.

You push the envelope. You pull the trigger. You give her what she doesn't get from any other guy.

It doesn't matter so much if you initiate the convo at times. Sure, give her some attention. Sounds like she's earned it. But, the point is . . . again . . . PULL THE TRIGGER!

Quit being stuck thinking "should I give her more attention? should I message her first?" blah blah blah. THAT'S NOT EVEN THE ISSUE AT THIS POINT.

thank you sir