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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:47 pm 
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I'm seriously considering quitting my attempts as becoming a successful PUA. The main reason for this is because I was paralyzed in a car accident 2 years ago and am unable to walk. I thought that learning the Venusian arts would make up for my handicap-no pun intended- but I'm finding that although I've learned a lot, I still cannot get women up to my standards (the kind of women I got prior to my accident) to see past the wheelchair. Furthermore, I have been turned down for every job I have applied for, and although I receive disablility, it's barely enough to survive on even living at my parents house. I can't see how I can fund my sarging, peacocking, etc. I'm just on the fence right now ~Lennon :(

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:08 pm 
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I can't say I know how you feel but I strongly suggest you watch the video's on Style's blog. www.myspace.com/neilstrauss I suggest you watch episode 3. I think it will give you the boost you need.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:12 pm 
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I say you need to work on inner-game first and foremost. There are quite a few accomplished people in wheel chairs, so don't let be a limitation to your success in both women nor the work force.


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I would not recommend giving up. If you look at your disability as a disability in this game, it will be. Sean from David Deangelo's crew is 3 feet tall and in a wheel chair, but uses it to his advantage by being playful and slipping under the radar often getting away with things no other pua could possibly get away with. Also, peacocking should not be a money issue, I've gotten some of my best stuff out of 25 cent machines. If you can't sarge every day sarge when you have the money.
I promise, you will lose nothing by sticking with this game. You will need a unique style of pick up but I know if you really think this game through you can come out on top.
Good luck out there!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:24 pm 
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Not to play the sympathy card, but if a woman can't see past the wheel chair, then you don't need to be with her anyway. . .

In fact, most women say that disabilities would not affect their feelings for someone in a relationship. . .Though I can't recall where I read this, I will try to find the statistical backings for you.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:36 pm 
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I agree that you should give up the idea of becoming a successful PUA. Stop trying to become and just be.

Tap into the mindset that you are already the person you want to be. Visualize yourself already there. Look at every detail in your visualizations: smell, touch, sight, sound. Many of us develop the habits of seeing ourselves as less than what we are. So we have to adjust our perception of who we are now and then. Whether or not our bodies are paralyzed or not, our minds do not have to be. Frida Kahlo learned to become a painter while incapacitated (Check out the quote below). Also check Maslow's ideas on Self-Actualization. These ideas helped me get out of my own way to successful living. (I'll post a link to this later)
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Kahlo contracted polio at age six, which left her right leg looking thinner sometimes than the other (a deformity Kahlo hid by wearing long skirts). It has also been conjectured that she also suffered from spina bifida, a congenital disease that would have affected both spinal and leg development [5]. As a girl, she participated in boxing and other sports. I

On 17 September 1925, Kahlo was riding in a bus when the vehicle collided with a trolley car. She suffered serious injuries in the accident, including a broken spinal column, a broken collarbone, broken ribs, a broken pelvis, eleven fractures in her right leg, a crushed and dislocated right foot, and a dislocated shoulder. An iron handrail impaled her abdomen, piercing her uterus, which seriously damaged her reproductive ability. Though she recovered from her injuries and eventually regained her ability to walk, she was plagued by relapses of extreme pain for the remainder of her life. The pain was intense and often left her confined to a hospital or bedridden for months at a time. She would undergo as many as 35 operations in her life as a result of the accident, mainly on her back and her right leg and foot.

After the accident, Frida Kahlo turned her attention away from the study of medicine to begin a full-time painting career. The accident left her in a great deal of pain while she recovered in a full body cast; she painted to occupy her time during her temporary state of immobilization. Her self-portraits became a dominant part of her life when she was immobile for three months after her accident. "I paint myself because I am often alone and I am the subject I know best" reflects her inner feelings about both her art and her psychological state. Frida's mother had a special easel made for her so she could paint in bed, and her father lent her his box of oil paints and some brushes.[6]

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*Slaps Lennon!* Don't give up or you will regret it!

I would say focus on getting a job first, Learn some basic psychology and learn about personality type. This will make getting the job easier as you will be able to convey that you are the right choice for the job.

After you get the job it's easy. You will feel a lot better about yourself. :D

And as the best tip I can give anyone on getting girls. FUCK clubs, bars, parties. Train, Street, Stores are better, But make sure you have a reason to be there. Take the train/subway to work. Loads of great girls there. same for stores and busy streets. Best thing is you see them how they are and it also doesn't cost as much as clubs :P

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Keep your head up man. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I know what you are going through, but I think if you give up now, you will never forgive yourself for it. Nothing in life that is worth having comes easy or free.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:09 pm 
lennon, I don't know if you've already given up or not, but if not . . . DON'T.

It IS an inner game issue. Pure and simple. As was also said, you don't need to worry about the peacocking. Listen man . . . I'm a guy that walks around like anybody else. You know what my peacocking is? My hat, coat, and a couple of rings. Period. You don't NEED outlandish peacocking attire. Some guys do well with it, some don't. It's different for all of us.

THE most important issue YOU have to work out is your inner game. Where YOU see yourself mentally. THAT'S what is making the difference in your life at this very moment. Girls DO see that in you. Whether you are comfortable with yourself or not. You CAN'T hide that from them. So, you MUST work on that within yourself. Trust me. You CAN get 10's whether you are paralyzed or not.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:16 pm 
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Well, I actually had given up and even tried to figure out how to delete my profile from this site but after not coming on here for some time, I read your responses and I will give this another shot. It does have A LOT to do with my own self-perception; I want to get the girls I used to inspite of the wheelchair but using Venusian arts or not, I can't seem to get ANYONE that knows I'm paralyzed. Girls on line hit on me but I don't mention my disablility; I'm too ashamed. I feel like this isn't me at all; I wasn't born like this and I don't want to live like this anymore. The bottom line is I do really need work (and help really) on my inner self if I am going to succeed in anything. Thanks again-Lennon

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Hey man

I know the feeling very well. I had cancer when i was 13, i still use a walking stick and have a very noticable limp as well as many disgusting scars under the belt around my hips and closer to u know. Ive gotten over them tho. Im still getting over how to deal with other peoples perception of me but im getting there.

I definately dont suggest to give this up. but maybe take your focus off of picking up women and focus more on getting used to the fact that your in a wheelchair and how to deal with that in life before u add another part to your life. I was confined to wheelchair for awhile but have gotten my strength up to being able to walk.

Its been nearly 4 years and im still dealing with shit from the whole experience. Its only been 2 years for you so i can totally understand that your still getting used to it.. for about 2 years i did absolutely nothing but ive worked hard and managed to get over lots of stuff in order to make my life as normal as possible. Even tho it will never be normal... I know every situation is different but every bad thing that happens opens opportunity for new stuff... such as i started playing wheelchair tennis (which i strongly recomend for anyone with a physical disability. Im now around 300 in the world and ive been playing for a year with loads of potential to get to the top.

Ive made the most out of my situation and suggest that u try to do the same. I know many people in wheelchairs through tennis and they r such amazing people because once they deal with why they're in a wheelchair and how they're gonna live their life with it they make more out of their life than they used as an able bodied person.

If you want to talk more just pm me... im new to the whole PUA thing but im willing to talk about anything.


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