How to number-close an HB10 in 2 minutes



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:18 am 
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Bad advice is bad advice, is not about hating mm or anything like that... There is no small success of getting a number that is fake or will not respond or flake = that is not small success that is pretend success... The goal is to put pipi in vagina last time i checked.

P.s. The op in step 1 recommended going direct..
OP the best advice anyone can give you in this community is to be wary of whose advice you take. Decide what works for you and go for that.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:40 am 
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None of this addresses the OPs beginning post. He is looking for a way to approach a girl if you only have 2 minutes. Maybe he sees hot girls on the subway on his way home and wants to at least approach instead of losing them. Maybe he is seeing hot girls on his way to work. Can someone give the guy and example of how they would approach a girl if they had 2 minutes. I'd just go direct.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:14 am 
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Some of you guys are pretty amusing!!!

1. I'm not some kind of a MPUA but I do know one basic thing about advising: you NEVER break somebody else's inner game, instead you build upon it. If I think that I'm fucking awesome at pick-up and that actually makes me extremely happy and confident you don't step in and tell me that I SUCK at it. You must guide me towards the defects of my game by questioning me while supporting my actions. Thanks god I'm not a (fragile) newbie - although I joined the forum pretty recently. (Socrates, one of the greatest philosophers in our history, would never give direct answers to his students; each individual has his own reality and the best that a teacher can do is to lead his students to AN answer via the Socratic method. That is, by asking the right question at the right time.)

2. Rephrasing what "The Doctor" has said: whatever works for me! As a community we want to expand our knowledge on pick-up and there is no reason to force other members to follow the same path as we did.

3. You talk about NLP and listening to what a girl has to say; well nobody has addressed my question yet. Actually, a very few people have understood my question.

4. In my original post, I explain my DIRECT approach for n-closing HB10s under time constrains. I wanna emphasize the fact that I'm interested in approaching HB10s, not 9s, but 10s and I have a LIMITED amount of time in my hands!!! From personal experience I know that a 10 will give you lots of shit tests BUT if you have a firm inner game/frame control, you can handle this shit, you will break her frame, she will take it personally and do whatever it takes to redeem herself. However, that's the case when you have some time to play this game. What if you have ONLY 2-3 mins? What I've also noticed on 10s is that they give lots of credits to the first-impression and that's why I came up with this direct approach (see original post). The question is how can I do any better? (read my previous reply for further details)

P.S. Respect to The Doctor


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:05 pm 
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you NEVER break somebody else's inner game, instead you build upon it.
Uhm, no. You're one guy. On the other hand, several hundred guys out there might think your advice is gold, follow it and end up frustrated and desperate after the 100th try. In fact, hundreds of guys on here ask for advice on flaky numbers on a daily basis. All you have to do is lurk for 30 minutes or so and you'll find a lot of flaky number problems.

Let's not perpetuate bad advice. Let's solve problems; not add more problems. The guys on here saying you're giving bad advice are the very same guys who have helped several hundred guys with those flaky numbers.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:23 pm 
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The reason a bunch of users descended upon you to varying degrees about being wrong is that we have probably all been there. Here is what happens 99.99% of the time: You get a girl's number immediately, and then never see her again. Regardless of your pickup style, in that situation you're either getting a fake number (rare), a real number but she won't answer because she has no idea who you are (very common), or she'll answer, realizing who you are, to avoid seeming rude but without any intention of ever meeting up. The only way this will actually get you laid is if she considers you absolutely stunning, physically, and she'll give you a chance because she realizes you are her exact type in terms of looks.

This is a good way to get a number, sure it's okay. But it won't get you laid. Pickup is not about getting numbers. It is about sex.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:45 pm 
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It's wrong to classify girls into different categories of personality based on how hot they are. I've slept with many girls you would call an HB10 who were really kind, lovely women and never gave me any shit when I approached and escalated. Then on other occasions, I've tried to talk to girls who were only a 6 or 7 and they've given me a shitty attitude and a massive bitch shield. Every girl is different. Don't assume super hot girls will be bitches and don't assume that the 6's and 7's will jump on your cock when you open.

In answer to the OP, if you are GENUINELY short on time and it's not just a false time constraint you are putting on yourself for no reason, all you have to do is:

1) approach
2) introduce yourself
3) give her a unique compliment, eg. "I had to stop you just to say how much I like your hair style"
4) then say you're in a rush, but "why don't you give me your number so I can get to know you better".

Simple, direct, no canned material, straight to the point.

But the above is not ideal and you should never give yourself time limits if you can avoid it.


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It's wrong to classify girls into different categories of personality based on how hot they are. I've slept with many girls you would call an HB10 who were really kind, lovely women and never gave me any shit when I approached and escalated. Then on other occasions, I've tried to talk to girls who were only a 6 or 7 and they've given me a shitty attitude and a massive bitch shield. Every girl is different. Don't assume super hot girls will be bitches and don't assume that the 6's and 7's will jump on your cock when you open.

In answer to the OP, if you are GENUINELY short on time and it's not just a false time constraint you are putting on yourself for no reason, all you have to do is:

1) approach
2) introduce yourself
3) give her a unique compliment, eg. "I had to stop you just to say how much I like your hair style"
4) then say you're in a rush, but "why don't you give me your number so I can get to know you better".

Simple, direct, no canned material, straight to the point.

But the above is not ideal and you should never give yourself time limits if you can avoid it.
^ this is the right idea! but i would ad a way to touch her(even if minimally) and set up a second meet right then and there to gauge her reaction...

So in step 4 "give me your number so we can get to know each other over coffee, or dancing, you are gonna have a blast, is thursday at 8 pm ok with you"

gll has the right idea:


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