Hi all,

I'm genuinely speechless, I don't know where this went wrong. I'm literally scratching my head as I write this.

It's around 10pm and I'm walking along the River Thames here in London with my friend. I open this set of 2 hot Polish sisters who are taking pictures. One is 17 and the other is 20 (I'm actually 31!). I'm getting on with them and then my friend joins me. I'm getting on well with the 20 year old, there's good eye contact and everything. I also get her facebook part way through. My friend is joining in the conversation and it's all going pretty well.

After about half an hour I suggest going for a drink, but as they have no money left they say they can't and come to think of it as the sister is 17 they wouldn't get in anyway. (They were leaving London the next day to go back to Poland). Another 30 min of chatting and I suggest grabbing a coffee somewhere and said it's ok I would pay for it. They say yes and walk with us. While we are walking I see my one (20 year old) put on some lipstick. Then, as obviously there is no place open this late lol I say my flat is only 5 minutes walk, we can have a drink there. They agree to come with us and we walk back. I'm walking next to my one and flirting with her more and doing more kino on her.

We then get to my flat and all grab a seat round the kitchen table. I get everyone a drink etc and sit down next to the girl I like. Perhaps in hindsight I should have been more confident here but instead I was thinking of how close I was to getting laid lol. After a few minutes of general chatting my one starts wiping her lipstick off with a tissue. When my friend asks what she is doing she says it is making it easier to kiss her.

Me thinking I'm definitely in there, I say to my one lets go to my bedroom as I have some cool tunes we can listen to. She says yes and grabs her head phones and comes with. We go sit on my bed and I play a tune on my ipad saying how much I like this tune. A couple minutes later she plays a tune on her phone that she likes. During this tune I say to her (probably lame in hindsight!) "what's ur favourite kissing music?". She then starts saying how she doesn't kiss just anyone and would only kiss someone if they were her bf. I then make a half assed move saying I want to kiss her and move in slightly. She then gets bizarrely genuinely upset and offended saying that she will only kiss her bf, and that I must think she is easy if she would kiss me right now. I then say that I like you etc and think your intelligent to which she replies we don't know each. She then goes to my door and we talk for a few minutes with me saying come to London and visit etc, where she still seems in a bad mood. Then a bit later she calls her sister and they leave as they have to rush back to catch the last tube to where their host family live (my friend and I earlier had said we would pay for a taxi for them if they missed the tube).

So now I'm typing this up thinking what the fuck happened. Was this a genuine case of a Polish girl being notoriously difficult to pull or did I make a fatal mistake somewhere as all the signs would indicate I was definitely in there? My friend who was with me said he doesn't know what happened and thought I was in there too.

Btw, she is really into academia, studying at a top uni (apparently), wants to be a teacher and doesn't drink alcohol. If that makes any difference...

One last thing, she said later on facebook when I messaged her that the lipstick thing was a joke and she still seemed a bit upset.

Maybe she was a bit naive. She probably didn't go to your place with sex in her mind and was surprised when you wanted to kiss her

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Sounds right.

Dude she is 20, she has no life experience. try older ones or the ones that give off they want to do more than talk on a bed lol

Yeah, you don't take a girl into your bedroom before you've ever even kissed her, unless she's drunk and obviously horny as fuck. There was neither enough comfort nor nearly enough attraction. When you tried to kiss her, she basically read it as "He thinks I'm going to sleep with him" and she was not in a mental or emotional state for that. She was still thinking logically. Never make a move on a girl when she's in a logical frame of mind.
Huh? I rarely see women over the age of 22. There is no need to deal with older, less attractive women.

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RSDTyler

Get away from the chuckE cheese lol jk

The reason she did not do anything, is cause you creeped her out, she could tell you "do not have it". What you say about kissing was horrible. What matters is the sub communication, the subcommunication in the interaction was this dude is weird, he does not know what he is doing, and is not a dude that gets laid a lot....

next time you have a girl in your room, try to get them relax, do not talk about kissing or sex etc... Escalate, a good way is to get to a point to give her a massage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGnxJXxu ... aje_vCb6KQ

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Aw
Can I go to Dan and Busters instead?

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RSDTyler

You were too eager reeking of Au De Desperation.

Your favourite kissing comment was lame, and too direct. Girls will be far more inclined to sleep with you when the conditions are such that "it just happened". Like some other poster said you sub communicated neediness and whether she was aware of it or not she started feeling awkward and attributed it to you.

Another thing i forgot to point out, you can not be with a girl subcommunicating friendship all along, so she sees you as a friend due to lack of escalation/kino and all of a sudden you out of the blue want to get physical...

You need to escalate and get compliance from the get go...So this type of stuff does not happen.

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Wow this is an ignorant statement.

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RSDTyler

Thanks for all your answers. Agreed, I came across as desperate, I was thinking how good it would to bang a hot 20 year old Polish girl the same evening we met whilst not even drinking. All these thoughts going through my head made me too keen.

Also, that kissing line of mine was awful in hindsight. Lesson learned for next time!

If you go to the bathroom after she does, chances are it'll smell nasty too. If you see her without her makeup, chances are she looks NOTHING like she does with. Actually there's a lot of insecurity with women not having makeup on as they look so diff often times. But with us guys it's what you see is what you get. Imagine some of the pressure they face in worrying if he'll still be attracted to her the next morning when all that shit has ran off her face. Don't treat women like demi gods, they're just like you and I, they are vulnerable creatures too.

Don't worry about the stupid shit you said, laugh it off, we've all been there.