To PurpleFlamingo:

I agree that, it's impossible to pick up ALL girls, and really (unless your a total tool), even most girls, but I vehemently disagree with the statement that "if you are aiming for a ten you better be a ten yourself." Thats complete BS.

Either that or I'm much more attractive than I give myself credit for… (which I doubt, I think realistically, I'm like a 7)

I don't like putting numbers on girls (you'll notice in my posts that I don't, because I don't need to validate the girls I'm attracted too, if I'm attracted, I'm attracted, nuff said) but the girls I've hooked up with/dated have realistically ALL been in the 7-10 range. My last girlfriend of 2.5 years was easily a 9, she was exotic, she was a division 1 athlete, and she had a personality everyone adored… but at the time, I was metaphorically a king, or at least I felt that way. I was well known and respected, I threw the biggest/baddest parties, I had (and still have) enormous ambitions, I was (and currently am) in decent shape, and I have an attractive personality.

Before I met her, I was the selector, not the selected.

I only ever had encounters with two "10s", I number-closed and kissed one, that ended up being a highly successful model, and I got a blow job from the other that is now engaged to a professional hockey player (or at least last I checked, I removed them both during my last FB purge). I met a third once, but she was married, and was super friendly, I simply enjoyed her company and made nothing more of it… but I think attractive girls overrate themselves. IRL, I've only ever seen those three "10s" ( you gotta remember, a 10, is pretty much the ideal perfection, a world class beauty)

When I wanted to really learn how to get women, I looked for scripts and strategies at first, but I felt weak using them. Instead, I looked for simple tips and advice more to guide my game rather than copy someone else's, and I "edited" myself into the best possible version of myself. You'll notice that I pretty much only post failures on this site, because I do fail and I want to learn from those failures to continue to improve myself, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

To everyone else:
I'd take her advice with a grain of salt, but I do agree that more often than not, it seems like you guys are over thinking it, that accepting you can't get ALL women should be an encouragement, not a detractor, and that if you see a woman your attracted to, try! Again, if you accept you can't get all women, when you try and fail, it won't bother you. I disagree that someone can be out of your league.

There are no such thing as leagues or even numbers (ratings) for that matter, its all an illusion created to keep you down and out, in game, like everything in life, the persevering risk takers will succeed.

im taking that last part and using it for my day to day motivation......amazing post

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I think this is gonna be my last post. This thread is getting way too twisted. I didn't even intend on talking about looks in my first post. I kinda get a feeling that some guys are getting offended and that's totally not what I wanted to do.

Let's get it straight. As much as I hate to generalize I think American guys are better-looking than the ones in my country. However, for some reason a lot of American guys have a problem picking up girls. After years of observing I really do think it's because guys here don't approach enough. A lot of you mentioned confidence. Sure, that has a lot to do when approaching. But how do you learn to be confident? By fighting your fear that's how! An example from my life:

When I was in college I had to take a speech class. Not only did I have a huge fear of public speaking but It was only my second year in the US so I still had a pretty thick accent (I was embarrassed of it). I was absolutely terrified and even wanted to switch my major so I wouldn't be required to take that class. But my BF was very supporting and was really helpful. So I decided to do it. The first speech was due after the first 3 weeks. I didn't have any friends in that class but I saw other people who were talking with each other. I felt like I was gonna sound stupid and they would all laugh and talk about me after class. When I was giving my first speech I was so nervous I was shaking. I was talking really fast because I was trying so hard to get it over with. Surprisingly I got a B+. Then I heard other people giving their speeches I honestly thought I did better than a lot of them. So for my second speech I wasn't worrying as much anymore. And because I was more relaxed it went even better. By the end of semester I was looking forward to my last speech! I'm so happy I was required to take that class because I realized that in order to stop being scared of something you have to do it.

Stop worrying about getting rejected so much. Who cares if some random girl doesn't find you attractive. Say "Have a nice day!" and move on. Try again and again and again. You will never get rid of your anxiety by sitting and thinking of some witty line. Start with not-so-pretty girls and see what happens. I wasn't in my comfort zone when I decided to talk to the guy of my dreams. I prepared myself for a possible rejection. The outcome was better than I could imagine but if it wasn't oh, well.

Yes, I said looks matter but how do you know how women view you? A lot of guys here said that they see beautiful girls with ugly guys. How do they know if women also think they are ugly? I used to work at one engineering company that was rather big. Our computer tech had a huge crush on one of our co-workers.We'll call her Kate. We were all friends but I don't think she knew about his feelings. One time they hired a new guy and he was relatively attractive. Kate really liked him and us, girls, knew about it. One time we were all in the break room and Kate started telling us how she got a chance to talk to the new guy. After work the computer tech came up to me and said: "Wow! I cannot believe Kate likes that guy. I mean he is not even good-looking!" I was kinda puzzled because I personally thought that the new guy was waaaaaay more attractive than the computer tech. Of course I didn't say anything but I was amused of how people view themselves and others sometimes. So when you say that some guy is ugly but dates pretty girls maybe you can attract even better-looking ones since you possibly could be more attractive than him. But you will never know if you don't ask.

The last thing. People called me shallow. Yes, I am. And so are you. And 99.9% of people. Being attracted to good-looking people is in our DNA. I'm not even gonna get into it as we all heard the caveman theory. So while personality sure does matter the first thing we all get attracted to is physical appearance. I think that in any relationship partners need to feel at least some level of physical attraction to each other. Somebody mentioned Jay Z and Beyonce. Yeah the dude is ugly as sin but he is one of the richest people in the world, he is famous, he is admired. That's what she is attracted to. Think about it would she be with him if he had none of those things? And this other guy posted pictures of rock stars and says women are attracted to their hard cocks. Lol I'm not sure if he meant it as a joke but that IS pretty funny.

So on this note I want to say you guys don't have to agree or believe me. It's just sometimes I read some posts about guys' struggles and I thought as a woman I'd give you an insight. I'm certainly not claiming we are all exactly the same but most women still have similarities when it comes to men. Also I'm sorry if I came off as a bitch sometimes. I didn't mean to offend anybody. I wish you all luck and hope you find whatever you are looking for!

XOXO PurpleFlamingo

It's true, though.

I think NONE of the guys here got offended. We focused on the topic and ideas at hand and refused to attack the women contributing in this thread.

On the other hand, the women as usual called the men around here "dumb cunt" and "mentally ill" among other negative labels. It's typically feminine argumentation. It's normal.

All is good though.

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very true, but atleast she wasn't to bad about it, i respect her

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I guess we can generally say that most of the members of this forum are respectful to women even when most of them are rude to us.

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It Is scientifically Proven that girls/woman knows that absolut least about what a girl/women want.

Case closed.

I really don't think women are equally as visual. Why? Because this website exists. If women were this visual, then why don't they simply act out on their visual desires? Why aren't women approaching good looking dudes in the clubs? (ya I know it happens 1 out of 30 times, give me a break though). It is because they have more (alot more than men) factors in building attraction. Or are we going to go ahead an say that women are less confident and less courageous than men now?

For the record, I didn't say that looks aren't important, they're just one of the aspects for women though, while for men, it holds alot more weight.