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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:03 am 
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Just talk to everyone, dude. Say Hi to every stranger you make eye contact with. Make eye contact. Delivery muffins to the neighbors, Ask the lady next to you what kind of flowers you should choose for you apartment, talk to guys and girls in the gym, go to the dog park, talk to everyone within speaking distance at the bar top, move to a new bar top and repeat, strike conversation in the elevator, roll down your window and at the stoplight and tell the person next to you that you like their hair. Talk to everyone with out fear. Talk to them about things other people don't talk about. Create moments to tell them your interesting stories. You will have a huge social circle in no time.

Pebble mentioned joining clubs and groups or picking up hobbies, definitely an excellent way to meet people. I joined the Leadership Program through my school and made lifelong friends and connections.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:04 am 
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Treat yourself to a nice sexy hooker perhaps too
This is honestly the best advice we can give


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:38 am 
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Start meeting strangers, join hobbies where you can meet people.

Treat yourself to a nice sexy hooker perhaps too

If you have no friends or social skills, I really don't get why doing online game would take priority over getting social skills.
Btw, I probably should have also mentioned this to you guys earlier, but to clear things up, it's not that I have poor social skills, it's just that it's been hard for me to find people to be friends ever since I got out of college. I mean, I'll admit that from grades 2nd through 9th I had trouble fitting in and getting along with others due to being at the time not only a hyperactive and very annoying kid to my peers, but also my parents and most teachers had a difficult time with dealing me. Though, during grades 6th through 9th some girls thought I was cute and started flirting with me. However, by the time I entered 10th grade I started to change gradually to being towards the opposite. Overtime, I gradually became a lot more deliberate and in control of myself, much more shy, and significantly more polite towards my peers, teachers, parents, etc. Plus, 10th through 12th the grade were the years when I became increasingly serious about my schoolwork, extracurriculars, sports, fitness, nutrition, getting into college, what have you. Overall, even though I obviously became much more introverted overtime, still by the end of my senior year of high school of my social skills and likability had increased up to over 200% amongst everyone around me compared to me from 9th grade and before. Plus, during my junior and senior years a lot more girls had started flirted with me (even some of hot and popular girls in my grade) and would tell me how cute or sexy I was or that they have had a crush on me, all despite turning out to be the shy and introverted type with very few friends that I knew well. Not to mention, that I ended being chosen as homecoming prince during my senior year. Nevertheless, I didn't go out with any of the girls who made a pass at me, because it was either that they already had a boyfriend or I didn't know how to handle it during a given encounter or because I wasn't physically attracted to them.

When, I was in college, I continued to improve my social skills and even started working more on my social confidence with others. Yet, during my college years, much less girls had initiated flirting with me compared to my high school years. I am not sure why. Nevertheless, there were few times when a girl would make sexual and/or romantic advances to me. One encounter happened with a kind of cute girl I met during a New Year's party I went to when I was 19. She went to a college in Florida and we got to know each other for about a couple of hours, and by the end of the party she end up kissing me on the lips before I did. Even about a half hour before that that we could "hook up" if I wanted. Though, I said no, because back then I was much shier, less experienced, and less knowledgeable when it came to girls compared to now. The day after the party she contacted me on facebook, wondering how I was doing, but I figured since she is going to go back to her college in Florida and I have very little skill with women, I decided to not contact her back. Looking back at it now, I regret not hooking up with her even like a few days after the party. Another two situations happened during my junior year, there were two girls in on my dorm floor who flirted with me. One was actually kind of a cute girl, who would stop by my dorm almost every other day for the first few weeks of the year, after she first noticed me on the first day. She would talked to me a lot, touch me sometimes, ask me if she was bothering me, and even invited me to hangout with her and her roommates. However, because again I was still very shy, inexperienced, and lack much knowledge when it came to girls compared to now and so like the girl I met at the New year's party, I didn't know what to do with a situation like this; therefore, I became overwhelmed by her. About a week Later, another girl who also noticed me on the first week of the same year, came by my dorm room too and right away asked me to hang out with her. Eventually, we ended becoming friends with each other until a few months later she ended up asking me to be her boyfriend, despite the fact that there was nothing going one between us at all (which for the record shocked me). I ended up rejecting her by making an excuse in saying that I think that it was too fast, when really I wasn't attracted to her and I just wanted to be friends. So, after she was saddened by this, we tried still being friends with each other for a few month later. Though, she turned out to be too needy due to unfortunately having had some sad psychological ordeals during both her childhood and adolescent life, and it ended up being too much of a strain between the both of us and so we stopped hanging out with each other again. During the end of junior year, I started to become envious of most other students who already have had a boyfriend or girlfriend, or had a real hook up of some sort. So, I start to ask out some girls on my floor, and I only got one girl to go out with me on a first day. Even, I couldn't get a second date with her. Then, during my senior year of college I went to a couple of college parties that I was invited to, and at each of these parties, I would try hitting on a total of a dozen of girls, which I ended up failing with all of them. There was even this one cute girl at one of those two parties, where I think I missed having an opportunity with, and though she was drunk she still ended up bumping and grinding on me for several minutes. So, by the middle of my senior year of college, I ended up feeling like a failure with girls, and that's when I started to research as much as I could online with dating, sex, romance, etc. However, even after looking up all this stuff, I would either be too hesitant to try out a certain method or I would try it and it wouldn't work. Since then, that's what it has continued to be like for the past five years. Although, I supposed that all the research and reading up on dating, sex, love, relationships, etc. has at least to a degree helped me both with my overall social skills and being much more aware about these things.

Sorry for spilling my "life story," but my purpose here was to clarify as much as I could on my social and dating history.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:16 am 
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Alphabro- where do u take girls on dates? Do u have your own place? Just curious as this is a sticking point for me.

Advice from anyone appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:33 pm 
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online dating is dead.. All the top rated females get hit on by too many lames, so now it is just their way of attention seeking. POF, OKCUPID, Tinder, it's all the same. I would only suggest online dating if you work like 24/7. It's not like it was in 06-10.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:19 pm 
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Speak for yourself, just had a date with a hotty from Tinder :p

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:31 pm 
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lol. That's funny!

Okay, I am gonna cut the post into halves. For this post I am going to put the first half on here:

Btw, I probably should have also mentioned this to you guys earlier, but to clear things up, it's not that I have poor social skills, it's just that it's been hard for me to find people to be friends ever since I got out of college. I mean, I'll admit that from grades 2nd through 9th I had trouble fitting in and getting along with others due to being at the time not only a hyperactive and very annoying kid to my peers, but also my parents and most teachers had a difficult time with dealing me. Though, during grades 6th through 9th some girls thought I was cute and started flirting with me. However, by the time I entered 10th grade I started to change gradually to being towards the opposite. Overtime, I gradually became a lot more deliberate and in control of myself, much more shy, and significantly more polite towards my peers, teachers, parents, etc. Plus, 10th through 12th the grade were the years when I became increasingly serious about my schoolwork, extracurriculars, sports, fitness, nutrition, getting into college, what have you. Overall, even though I obviously became much more introverted overtime, still by the end of my senior year of high SCHOOL of my social skills and likability had increased up to over 200% amongst everyone around me compared to me from 9th grade and before. Plus, during my junior and senior years a lot more girls had started flirted with me (even some of hot and popular girls in my grade) and would tell me how cute or sexy I was or that they have had a crush on me, all despite turning out to be the shy and introverted type with very few friends that I knew well. Not to mention, that I ended being chosen as homecoming prince during my senior year. Nevertheless, I didn't go out with any of the girls who made a pass at me, because it was either that they already had a boyfriend or I didn't know how to handle it during a given encounter or because I wasn't physically attracted to them.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:01 am 
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Alphabro- where do u take girls on dates? Do u have your own place? Just curious as this is a sticking point for me.

Advice from anyone appreciated.

First, I don't really go on dates. I "meet up" with women, or "hang" with women. My most recent lay involved going to a local bar, and suggesting we walk the town, eventually ending up at the park around midnight. For me, there is no better meet up than the park. It is free, gives you time to isolate and escalate, and it is peaceful safe and quiet. I do have my own place which helps, but if you can get a girl ready to fuck it doesn't really matter where you take her.

I recommend other places that don't involve spending money like a stroll through downtown, art exhibits, the zoo on free days ect.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:03 am 
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online dating is dead.. All the top rated females get hit on by too many lames, so now it is just their way of attention seeking. POF, OKCUPID, Tinder, it's all the same. I would only suggest online dating if you work like 24/7. It's not like it was in 06-10.

I couldn't disagree more. Online dating is becoming more accepted by young and old. You are right that online dating shouldn't be your main source though. I'm going through a rough patch in life where I don't have the time or money to go out so i'm getting it in online, but when I get out of this jam i'll be back in the field. I still day game though.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:43 pm 
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Another thing that I don't get is, if my online profile was boring before I ask you guys advice, then why did I end up getting about 20 photo likes, 10 interested in me notifications, and several winks from girls?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:57 pm 
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They were interested in you until you started talking. Making your profile more mysterious/short/cocky makes it so they have to get to know you in conversation thus helping you with your poor conversational skills.


By all means, if you are getting so much attention with the previous profile, keep it. Just work on your conversation skills.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:48 pm 
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They were interested in you until you started talking. Making your profile more mysterious/short/cocky makes it so they have to get to know you in conversation thus helping you with your poor conversational skills.


By all means, if you are getting so much attention with the previous profile, keep it. Just work on your conversation skills.
Wait, so if actually they were already interested in me to begin with then why is it that awkward to directly ask them if they want to get together at a casual setting like coffee or something like that instead of putting too much pressure on them by asking them to have something like dinner together at a sit-down restaurant?

Also, i haven't yet figured out as to what you mean by me talking about too many irrelevant things in my profile or messages? How?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:05 am 
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It's online dating, man. Girls are getting upwards of 100 messages a day. They simply don't have the time to write back to every guy and agree to go on dates with all of them. It doesn't help I use a very generic opener, but i'm still successful. I don't appreciate you telling my success rate is sad lol. Yeah I could be doing better, but i'm happy with my efforts. Even the best pick up artists can't have more than a 20% success rate in non-online gaming. Who would want to command every woman to love them anyway? Yeah that would be cool, but you would eventually miss the chase.
You know, I have actually read and heard about the idea of girls getting upwards of 100 messages a day from several PUA and dating coaches already. They either substantiate this notion from a study that shows that women receive more messages than men or at least seem to insinuate that girls do receive more messages than men. Right? I mean, because assuming that its true that girls are getting upwards of 100 messages and not just first messages a day, while also assuming that most guys are the ones that don't even end up getting first e-mail responses, this therefore would seem to mean that women in general receive more messages than guys. Am I right? If so, then why is this happening?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:09 am 
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Lol because girls are more picky then guys since every guy wants to bang them. It's common sense. Girls will receive more messages than men,

It's irrelevant anyway.

All you need to do is stand out from all the other guys which is what essentially what game is...it's very easy to stand out because most guys are lazy and just don't get it..

Just apply the stuff has been mentioned and you can do the same too

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