i agree and disagree.
i have known someone(a family member infact) who was raising a child, was pregnant and working a full time job while in college. she graduated college in i believe was only 2 years, and went onto medical school and graduated in 3.. she is now a psychotherapist who is very well known in her field.

if you wanted to have this type of life style you probably wouldnt have time to meet people, socialize, and have fun.

find something that fits your personal needs or goals. if your trying to get a place to bring women back to then leaving school isnt very smart. lets be realistic here, the reason this thread is up is to help people get out of there parents house who aren't doing anything with there lives in order to feel more secure with their sexual lives.

So what bit do you disagree with?

Like I said, sometimes you can't do everything you want at the same time. Your family member obviously had to sacrifice some level of social life in order to do all of that - had she wanted to have more of a party lifestyle at college, she wouldn't have been able to raise a kid, work and deal with pregnancy as well.

My point to southern gentleman (and the point I've made throughout the thread) is that if you can't afford to move out, don't do it "just because". Yeah, it's a good thing for the reasons majikal has made, but at the same time there are other things in your life which might be more important at any one time. If your goal is to move out, then some might be able to do it now, some might have to save up for 6 months and then do it, others might have to go through 3,5 whatever years at college and then move out when they've got a job. It depends on what you want to do and how you are going to do it, but if you've got goals and a plan to achieve them off your own back, that's what matters. Living on your own - supporting yourself more importantly - should be a big goal of most people. But sometimes it has to be a long term goal rather than a short term fix.

what i disagree with is telling someone to stop his studying for a year or two in order to work and save money so he can again go to school and live in his own apartment. it seems like a waste of time. he will still be living with his parents if he leaves school to work and save up. and he would be delaying his college degree by a few years. instead (and of course this is my own opinion and seems the most logical to me) i would bang out the school degree and go into the working world right after. i would be saving a few years of my life instead of wasting a few years because i wanted to live on my own. (again, this is my own opinion and seems the most logical to me)

i agree with everything else you have said though. don't move out unless you can "afford" to which doesn't necessarily mean money.

If it was literally that easy to make £600 a month "sending a few emails" why isn't everybody doing it? How do you generate those sales? By re-selling the myth of passive income to other lazy young people?

You need a reality check bruv. Either start a business and work hard at it or don't do it at all. We'd all love to half-heartedly work 4 hours a week for big money, but remember, the guy who wrote 4HWW didn't get his business off the ground working 4 hours a week. Good entrepreneurs work very long hours for years and years and gradually reduced their involvement in the business once they have built up a sizeable profit and management structure to run it effectively.

You've been brainwashed if you believe you can make a good salary purely from affiliate sales / passive income (£14,400 a year is not a good salary, even if you work fewer hours).

Top 4 reasons why passive income is a dangerous fantasy:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelells ... s-fantasy/

And Google "The myth of passive income" and see how many pages come up.

It is a business, (I'm selling physical products so nothing to do with affiliate products) and I have worked my ass to get it to the point that it's making me passive money and I'm registered as a business.

Im not even speculating, it's just a fact. Let me know if you need any advice. Hunter foxe, I am currently making money passively. I will send you my sales page if you would like ?

"If it was that simple, everybody will be doing it"

This is the line I hear the most from people. It's great actually. Because otherwise everybody would be doing it and it would be harder for people like me. You've been brain washed into thinking that you can't make money passively. Surely there is at least one person on this earth that does this? I'm willing to bet the owner of this forum does well quite passively. Of course you have to work hard in the begginning, but you can automate it and even get other people to run it for you once it's profitable so you can work on replicated a new business

Just because you have read an article of why not to do it I could easily find an article of why you could do it. But it just boils down to taking action. 80/20 rule I guess, it's not for everyone

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Problem is, most college guys DON'T do this... Because college doesn't teach you work ethic. So they get a degree and sit around their parents house for a few years until they get fed up with their lazy ass kid. Then, they go get some menial job and are bitter because their college degree didn't do all the work for them. College does NOT guarantee success.

And then when guys say they are going to stay home and "save money"... It NEVER works like that. Unless you have motive to make money (i.e. if you can't afford to eat or you've got to pay rent) you'll never make enough to save up.

The absolute BEST education anyone can get is to go out and get slapped around and have the shit kicked out of them by the real world. Life isn't easy. The sooner people learn that, the better. You've been LIED TO by your parents and society when they told you that "everything will be okay if you just go to school and get a degree."

im not sure if your directing this to me or not. if you are i think you completely misunderstood what i was saying. college in some degree teaches you work ethic. they are working towards getting that degree , whether it will get them a job or not. i agree that most people think that because they have that degree that they will be able to get a job that revolves around that degree. hard truth is its not always the case, unless you bust your fucking ass of to get it. and obviously working harder in school will help you later find that job. with that said i still dont think he should stop going to school just to find a job..finish school and then find a job whether its related to his degree or not.

Bottom line is passive sales won't make me a millionaire. I'm not interested in making other people richer.

Wasn't directed towards you at all man lol I was referring to things I've seen (meaning alot of my old friends) in my experience.

I'm 26 years old. I don't have a college degree. I'll clear 200k this year doing what I love to do. I'd say most of my old friends from highschool went to college and not a single one of them has a job where they make nearly as much money as I do and the ones that have jobs... hate their jobs.

You don't NEED a degree to be successful nor will a college degree necessarily guarantee that you are going to be successful. As in everything in life... It doesn't matter how good you are, how smart you are, how "good looking" you are, whether or not you paid a ton of money for a piece of paper... All that matters is how bad do you want it?

So confused, I can give you so many examples of people who have done it.

I really don't get your last part? I am selling physical products. So why would I be making someone else a millionaire? You are just assuming i'm being an affiliate or something. I run a business

Surely 99% on this thread are making their boss richer but sacrificing 80 hours of their week to do so....I give up with you, let's go back to giving solid pick up advice instead..

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I agree, however this passive approach to life is ingrained in my psyche that I need a roaring flamethrower scorching me to the bones for me to change....I no ambition other than being a pimp-ass don't give a fuck player.

Magic what do you humbly think will the best way for me to get slapped in the face by reality so hard that my work ethics will flip-flop?

Honestly man, (And I feel like alot of young guys need to read this)

Put yourself in a sink or swim life situation. A situation where you CAN'T be lazy. I'm talking about serious shit too...

I'm talking about where you've got a week to come up with rent money or you're going to be homeless. Or where you're starving and you need to put food in your cabinets. Get rid of ALL security... You'll either fall flat on your ass or you'll figure it out. And even if you do fall on your ass... You'll figure out how to get back up.

That's the best part about being a man. We know how to solve problems and are warriors when we need to be.

I've been homeless before dude. Every single day, when I wake up... I think about what it was like waking up on the train I was sleeping on. I know how hard I have to work to never go back to doing that. Granted, I've always been a hard worker and had alot of ambition but the thought of being on that train again.... man... That's what keeps me working as much as I do, day in and day out. That's the "fire under my ass."

Maybe you need that too man... maybe being homeless and having to figure out how you're going to pay for your next meal will help you develop that hustler work ethic.

And I'll tell you this... Developing that "hustler" work ethic will help you become more of that "don't give a fuck player."

6 years ago... I was coming out of a divorce. I was alone and depressed. I was in a situation where I needed to make something happen. So I started going out and talking to girls and really hitting the shit hard.

I've got a girlfriend now and pretty much for the last 3 years of my life, I've had a girl in my bed atleast 4 nights out of the week. I could stop going out and making shit happen... but same as being homeless... I don't want my life to be the way it was before. I think about being sad and lonely every time I tell myself "nah, I don't want to go talk to girls... I'll just stay home and jerk off." and that's what adds fuel to my fire.

I made a choice that I wanted to have a kick ass lifestyle and now that I've seen what putting in the hard work gets me... I don't want to go back.

Hopefully this helps you out. All it takes is making the decision to not let your life suck anymore and do something about it.... But your life has to really suck in the first place before you reach that point.

that was BEAUTIFUL and motivational

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Sorry, I was high when I read your post. I get it now, you run a business where you buy physical products and sell them on for a profit. I just think the word "passive" is misleading because it gives the false impression that you don't have to work hard to make good money.

I'm not defending the 9-5 lifestyle, being a slave to the wage is shit.

No problem.

Yeah just to clarify. You have to work your ass off at the beggining, I have had a few late nights and shown up to work all grumpy

But with computers and the Internet you can put things on autopilot so that it works for you. It's like having your own personal robot employee

It isnt easy. It requires determination just like pickup but it is very rewarding when you get through the dips

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