I've picked up a lot of information over a long period of time . Am I subcociously doing things that a pua does conciously? Is it possible? Am I a pua genius but don't know it?
How do I grow from there?

I feel like I have a lot of inner game to work out before I ever find that answer. Or maybe that is the answer. But Ill continue to learn as much as possible in the mean time.

When you reach PUA status you'll know. Physiologically your voice will grow deeper, you'll gain an extra inch on your penis easy (which in your case will bring you to a solid 2"), and you'll have a swagger to your walk like none other.

If you've experienced none of the aforementioned, you are yet to arrive at your destination of PUAdome.

I've experienced this in my life. Sad enough to say I may have lost those attributes

Anyway... Back on topic. Is it possible? Does natural game exist?

Lmao

Aside from the penis thing; he definitely right. But you'll start to see it as bigger psychologically.

And to the OP; natural game definitely exist. I never knew anything about this Community until about 3-4 years ago, but I was out approaching women before that. My dad was a player, his dad, and so on. So I was always watching men approach women and doing so myself.

Also, you are correct when you say that reading will subconsciously implant certain behaviors into your mind. But theres no way you're read yourself into being a guru. Unless you go out and fail time and time again, you won't actually be a so called Pick Up Artist

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If you're good at it - natural game works better than all of these PUA techniques.

It definitely exists.

Yes when i joined the community i was already good with women(over 200 lays), what is called a "natural" which is what you are... Now, it is confusing when you join as a natural cause you may feel that what you did all this time was wrong, or that you need to do stuff differen, but you do NOT... So just be careful you fall into that trap which i did, and fucked me up mentally, and fucked up my results.. The community will help you better understand and explain what you already do well. Also the community may complement your game, just make sure you take what applies to you and is congruent with you, instead of being someone else. I recommend you follow guys that join the community as naturals or have that type of mindset.... From this forum there is one that is called warped mindless...If you are looking for more natural type game read models mark manson, 60 years of challenge, some stuff in my blog...Forget about silly labels, does not matter what you call yourself.


http://www.theskillsmethod.com/naturals ... ity-dudes/

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Natural game, pick up game....WTF! Game is game, throwing all these meaningless labels around creates confusion.


All game is fundamentally "natural", just some people pile on loads of crap that isn't necessary....as skills said don't full into the trap of stopping what is working to follow some scripted narrative...keep doing what you are doing, simply improve on it.

60's real as fuck. Truth. Listened to Manson the other day, some good little nuggets in Models but all-in-all 60 covers all of it, and 60s frames on women's behavior is scary accurate. Shoutout to Tyler @ RSD too. Not so much Pickup, but rather being the best version of yourself you can be WHICH will always trump some set of phoney techniques you're using to masquerade as an 'alpha'.

Lol

It's not like a badge or a rank. You don't one day "become a PUA". You're just gradually becoming better and better with women.

Are you happy with your success right now? If yes, who the fuck cares if you're a PUA? You're happy!

If you're not happy with your success, again, who the fuck cares if you're a "PUA"? You still need to improve!

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Thank you all for your responses. im going to pick up these books mentioned starting with Models.

I have a long road ahead of me

thank you for this. i understood what he meant by the penis thing. even if he didnt use the word "psychologically".

I have a good idea where my game is right now even if it is all in my head. Be it fail or success like you said i wont be called a Pick Up Artist unless i got out and do it. Much love

Don't worry about being a "pick up artist." That's going to actually make you worse. If you try and do all the PUA shit, girls are going to think you're being fake. Be real mother fucker. Be real.

Every guy is already somewhat "natural" with women... Seeing as your sperm was the one to get to the egg first, you've got it in you. Every guy does. It's the shit you've learned growing up that fucks with you.

What you want to work on is fixing whatever it is you're struggling with and then build off of that.

You write some good stuff

i agree. that honestly made my day thank you majikal