I have got to know this HB8 from around the local pubs clubs in my local city. Me and my wing sarged them a couple times and he was successful with her friend who is a HB6 but he ended up blowing her off for a hotter girl which made the friend kind of against us. But we kept on chatting to them, using them as social proof every time we've seen them out and about. This has gone on for about a year, I have kept up the banter with HB8 throughout this time when I see her in a club and so on but never really tried to close. She has seen me pull other women and have a good time. Her friend has always acted like a bit of a bitch towards me when this has been going to which I just ignore. Anyway the HB8 has recently started to warm up to me big time, hitting me with a lot of IOI's but for whatever reason I have not really been able to close because either her friends get in the way or I have other obligations that I cant abandon that night. She has me on facebook and Iv tried starting a convo with her to which she always responds warmly with one or two msg's but goes silent before I can arrange a meet or anything so I just dont bother until the next time I bump into her.

Anyway the other night I was out with my sister, her friend and other non-game friends, sure as fuck I bump into the HB8, I hit her with some cocky, funny banter about not being able to pull guys since she dyed her hair from blonde to dark brown and she's loosing her touch etc..which seems to actually knock her confidence a bit as she hit me with a major shit test which I passed. Later she comes up and says I am a really cheeky bastard but she likes it. I end up dancing with her for the last 15 mins of the night and she tries to take me home buy basically grabbing my hand and saying c'mon. But I couldn't go I had obligations to take my sis and her friend home (they never go out in that city).

Think Iv blew it with this chick? She is a cut above what I am usually able to pull and has options. I am considering a msg'ng and just getting straight to the point, by trying to arrange a meet up or hangout...not sure how to proceed.

The following is just my gut feeling from what you describe, and by far not a "truth" in any way. You know better, since you know all the details. But I think she sees you as a one night stand, something fun for the night and nothing more. Even is she doesn't, it can be good for you to believe that and see everything else as a bonus. That would describe why she isn't interested when messaging.

If I am right, you probably can't arrange anything with her because she isn't interested enough. You risk spoiling it by trying, which can in fact be a good thing so you don't have to live in uncertainty. If I'm wrong though, she will answer positively to a date proposal. Because of this (no matter what) I think you should be very direct and send her a message asking her out. Don't try to warm up in the chat with a "hi, how are you doing?" and shit like that, just send a direct question "do you wanna go out with me on friday?".

Nope, didn't blow anything in fact you're def still very much in the game.

Get her out, feed her a cocky funny line via text immediately telling her you guys should hangout next week be bold, be specific with times too that you're avail or you'll pass off as weak sauce.

Keep that shit surgical and succinct (short).

"Hmmm still convinced blondes are more fun...prove me wrong. Hitting up XYZ let's see what kinda moves you got."

Bit lengthy but you get the idea.

I don't know - I think you may have missed your window.

You did not miss your window unless she is a total bitch. Hopefully you told her you would love to come back with her and play and have her wake up in the morning and you not be there but you have to look after your sister tonight.

If anything, that would boost value in most girls eyes. Don't fb message her ever again, that shit is lame. Possibly, take n2's advice with the time and place text. But you see this chick out all the time so she will eventually see you, and wonder why you went out for a great time and never mentioned possibly seeing her. Don't have your sister with you that night

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Thanks guys,
I dont actually have her phone number if I wanted to contact her it has to be FB for the moment.

I ended up sending her a banter message referring back to that night to remind her emotionally of it, she responded in a friendly manner so I asked if she wanted to hangout but put time constrained on it as I am away on holiday next week. She took over a day to respond then came back with something along the lines of

"Aww That sounds great but Iv kind of started seeing somebody recently, but thanks for asking. Hope you have a great week away "

I responded with: Ok cool, ill strike you off my to-do list It got a lol then that was the end of the interaction. I wont attempt to contact her again until I see her out then it will be game on again.

There is a lot of sexual tension between us when we meet in the club, she gets a very intense look on her face at times when interacting with me. She will break away from her friends to stop and talk to me despite her friends getting pissed off or doing their dam hardest to make me out to be a dick. Some of the IOI's I have had from her in the past have been blatant. Such as: "it doesn't take much to get me drunk, I'm a real cheap date me". "We are sitting in the champagne bar, come talk to me later" and "Iv been single for ages now its not fun" Or "If my ex-boyfriend walked in here right now Id just go home and have sex with him".... She knows he's left the country and that's not gonna happen.

And her favourite one of late"You dont like me dark eh, do you think I should go back to blonde? Or something along those lines. To which I just play along with and tease..as described in the first post.

I am sure all of this will continue but just goes to show in the cold light of day she still rejects. Your worth to a female can change massively from when shes in a club, drunk and when shes home.