I'm in college right now, I have read about Mystery Method and many other PUA's methods, but I am confused as to what to use in a DAYTIME college situation. Essentially, this is the breakdown of my situation:

Big campus. Lots of HBs. Pickings are NOT slim (I sometimes mean this literally!). Only problem is, they're always either going somewhere (between classes) or having lunch in this outdoor cafateria-type place, or studying at the library (actually some of the sexiest girls I have seen are there, but as it is silent I don't know how to talk to them...). Oh, and there's not a lot of nightlife here, it's not a big party school. And there's lots of shy Asian chicks (though I'm not just partial to asians, some of them are really cute.) And I've gotten blown off and LJBF'd more times than I care to remember. So something's not right here.

So long story short, I need some openers or at least guidelines for openers that would work on total strangers in college. My possible pickup scenarios are as follows:

1. Random approach on sidewalks and footpaths when I see a girl I like (kind of like passing girls at a mall I guess, but sometimes just a "hi" won't work on them... especially if they have to go somewhere fast.)

2. Campus Bookstore - girls go here for all sorts of reasons - to buy books, check out the latest gadgets and computers, read, get University apparel - they rarely stay for more than 5 minutes.

3. cafeterias: these are either indoor or outdoor. Indoor ones are more likely to have sets, though there are often sets just walking through the outdoor ones.

4. Restaurants: there are several of them on and off campus, only minutes to approach before she pays and leaves (or sits down).

5. Libraries: we got two on campus, both very quiet and it's hard to approach girls. But I often see the hot ones there, typing on a computer or reclining on a comfy chair.

6. Classes: I got HUGE lectures (300+ students) and discussions (much smaller), but neither one leaves much time to interact in class. To seduce a girl here would be torture, since both me and her also have to take notes, pay attention to the professor, not talk too loud, read the board, etc. Lots of distractions. And girls always feel like texting their friends in class.

7. Student Clubs: they meet at night usually, but I live far away from campus and there's not much time for joining clubs and going to meetings...

Many times I just see a gorgeous HB 8 or 9 walk out of a class or library, and I want to approach, but then the AA starts, I notice how crowded the campus is, how many girls will notice if I mess up... I can't think of what to say, and just like that she's gone. I need serious help here. Anyone who's good at college day game, please post ASAP. I feel like every day I let pass, I am missing opportunities that will never be there after I graduate, I want to get good in college day game before doing night game in bars and clubs. This is seriously the quickest way to meet lots of sexy women daily, but I don't know where to start. I feel like Mystery Method fails here since it is for bar/club game, but Ross Jeffries' method seems too long and dependent on memorizing big patterns to be effective in these situations, as they all have serious time limitations. So friends, tell me the best of what has worked so far. And how do you isolate or get a kiss close in front of lots of students, without a dorm on campus?

What's up Ice? Sounds like you're dealing with a little "Old Man in the Sea" situation (water, water everywhere...).

I had a few thoughts for you and a couple questions.

What's your level of peacocking? I mean, are you giving girls a reason to look at you even before you approach them? Do you stand out? In Style's new Rules of the Game challenge, that's his first challenge. Learn that it's not cool to blend in. Dress yourself up a little, or a lot. Get some interesting pieces of jewelry, some kick ass clothes, shades, whatever it takes to make the chicks at least give you that initial look. And of course, keep yourself well groomed.

Next, if that AA is creeping up maybe you should get in a little practice with chicks that you're not so interested in. Just try out some openers on anyone you're standing next to. It's best in the beginning if you do it with people you're not interested in because there's no risk. If they "shoot you down" who cares. You didn't really want to talk to them anyways. This is also great because THIS is the attitude you want even when you're talking to hot chicks. The "I don't give a rats ass what you think because I'm the most interesting guy you'll meet" attitude.

As far as openers go, it's not always what you say. I'm constantly building a list of random questions I want to know the answer to, particularly opinion stuff so when I ask someone it's genuine.

1. Sidewalks and footpaths - this translates to "moving target". This is a tough thing to pull off but, just keep in mind, you don't want to chase them.

- Where'd you get that shirt/hat/etc.? My sister/mom/cousin/auntie has the same one.

Example:
As soon as I see her, smile - I know something she doesn't know. When she gets close enough to hear me without yelling, I point.
Me: Where'd you get that belt? My cousin has the exact same one.

I should have her at least partly hooked because I'm peacocking. I don't go over the top. I just dress interestingly so she's saying to herself "Wow. This guy looks interesting."
VERY IMPORTANT: If she doesn't stop, NEITHER DO I. If I'm stationary (sitting on a bench or whatever) I don't get up. In fact, I wouldn't even lean towards her. I'd lean back when I say it. I'll follow with an interesting story about my cousin. About how she took me skiing or surfing a couple months ago. How much fun we had blah blah blah.

2. Campus bookstore - This one's going to be very situational. It really depends what section you're in.

Me: (Looking through the racks, not at her).Do you see any books on (insert subject or author)? I'm thinking about taking X class and I want to know what I'm getting myself in to.

It's interactive. She ends up helping me look for it. It also says I've got my shit together. I'm not scrambling to take care of my current classes. I"m planning ahead. I'll follow with an interesting story about why I wanted to take this class with some DHV.

3. Cafeterias: Opinion openers are always good for sets. Again, I've got a growing list of stuff I'm just generally interested in, and interested about peoples opinions of. Create your own and start finding out.

4. Restaurants: Same deal as above. Another good one for restaurants is refering to another great restaurant.

Me (sitting down near her): You ever been to X cafe? It's phenomenal. I follow with a descriptive story (emotions/feelings) about the cafe.

5. Libraries: Very similar to the bookstore. Another one, "Do you know anything about X? I'm trying to get as many people's opinions on X topic as I can before I turn in/start this paper.

6. Classes: Probably the best you can do in this environment is build your value. Chances are slim that you'll find an opportunity to open here. Just make sure you're interesting looking, friendly (smile), and look like you've got your shit together. If you look the part of a fun, interesting guy you'll have opportunities after class.


There's a lot of options here and even more you can probably create with the basic structure:
1 - Demonstrate value (dress, jewelry, hygiene)
2 - Interactive opener (something you could say to anyone)
3 - Background story with DHV and emotion/feeling

At this point there should be some interest on her part.

I would also volunteer in class for whatever examples. Don't over do it but enough that people are aware of you. Last week I volunteered to come up in my class. The prof. made me hold a discussion with a guy and girl in front of the class for them to understand body language and the social dynamics. The prof says he was surprised because most guys hide their hands and have a nervous body language but I was pretty relaxed and laid back and the girl kept leaning in forward throughout the conversation being drawn in.

Friday I go out and run into a girl from class and right away she opens me up saying she remembers seeing me in class and talking about the class experience and blah blah blah.

Just make sure people are aware of you at class and see what fun you are, it will make it much easier when you run across them later on.

As far as libraries, check this out, right out of Lance Mason's newsletter that I got just last week:

It's really interesting that you talk about seeing hoties in a
library, and having no clue how to go about attracting her.

Why? Because that is EXACTLY how I started over 10 years ago.

See, I wasn't born a ladies' man. I wasn't always smooth and
totally fulfilled in my relationships with women. Matter of fact,
like a lot of guys I knew, I was pretty damn unhappy. And I
couldn't find anything to help me change it.

There wasn't anyone I could ask about getting better with women. I
bet you know what I'm talking about. It's like there are guys who
do well with girls, and then there's everyone else, and the guys
who do well can't tell you how they do it.

That's where I was. Just stuck, wanting so bad to be able
to go up to those girls and get them feeling good, feeling
attracted, and show them how happy they could be with me.
But I couldn't figure out the first step.

But that changed when I started to take a chance. See, I didn't
have any killer techniques, but I had stubbornness. I was going to
keep trying till I figured it out.

So I would sit and look at the girl, and imagine just how
nervous I would feel walking up slowly, how nervous I would feel
standing in front of her, how nervous I would feel talking to her,
just knowing that every single person in the library was watching.
I would sit and feel that nervousness. I would let it build, until
I knew that was as nervous as I could get... and then I would just
hold it. I'd get up and start walking slowly toward her, just
holding that feeling.

See, nervousness is an energy. And energy that you contain
will build power.

I didn't move fast. I didn't flinch. I didn't shake or
twitch or smile or laugh. I just walked up slowly, and
stood in front of her until she looked up, and said, simply,
slowly,

"I was just about to leave, and I noticed you here.
I had to come meet you."

"I'm Lance. May I join you?"

Now just guess what happened when I did this.

Did everyone in the library see what was happening? Yes.

Did I feel nervous knowing that pressure was really on? Yes.

Did she laugh or point at me or say "go away, creep?"

Never.

In fact, once I had been doing this a while, I found that
a full 50% of the girls I approached in this way met me
for a date.

That's right. 50%.

I know a lot of great salesman, and I'll tell you, any of
them would kill their mothers to get a close rate of 50%.

It took me a while to figure out what was happening, and
even longer to figure out how to teach it, but after talking
to guys who knew the real deal with chicas I got it.

See, when you approach this way in the most unlikely of places, you
shock the hell out of her.

You do more than catch her off guard. You make a dream
she's dreamed her whole life come true.

When you confidently tell her that there is something about
her that you just have to know about, something special in
her that you don't see in other people, it makes her think
one thing.

"Finally, it's happening to me."

She will invite you to sit. She will want to know about you.
She'll want to know who you are. She knows you are confident
(or you wouldn't have the big stones to do that!)

She knows you understand women.

Now she wants to know who you really are. And once a woman's
curiosity is piqued, getting the date is as easy as, well,
checking a book out of the library.

This is what it's all about. You become the sexual, potent,
confident man she's been waiting for literally since she was
a little girl, and you make her melt with just a few words.

It's so powerful, you create attraction and rapport in SECONDS.

Once you have that, all that's left to do is sit and have a
friendly lil' chat, and get the annoying details of setting
that great first date.

You know how the movie ends, and you've both been waiting too
long.

Now go meet some women!

Your friend,
Lance Mason

College game and club game are different. Some girls just coming out of high school havent had the male attention like a 26 year old might have. You know when Mystery says a women is hit on 50 times a month (or whatever it is) but depending on what year of college they are in will mess with your game. I think their is a guy who does a news letter named Mark Redman who is like a college game specialist. He says in college being adventurous is important, especially if they are away from home. He says when a girl away at college shes wants memories.

Here's one for classes:

At some point, preferably the very beginning of the semester, walk into the classroom early, AMOG style. Like you own the room.

Then, talk to the first person you see. Use an opener that goes well with the class subject, or something that the whole class could talk about. After a little bit talking with the first person, include someone else in the discussion. Keep the conversation growing. As long as the class is less than 50 people, you can work the room like one big set.

Don't sit down. Be loud enough everyone can hear you. Make EC with people. You want to basically act like the professor would, leading a group discussion. Given the classroom setting, your behavor is a subconscious DHV (you act like the teacher), and you can run your usual game. Then, as class starts, pick a seat next to your target. Give her light negs with comments (if you can get away with it), or with body language. After class ends, as she's leaving, work a #close. Or, have patience and do this for a week before going for the #.

I watched a HB8 do this to our class, and now she has controll of all 30 students. I have to admire her- she AMOG'ed all the guys!

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