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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:05 am 
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sleep with you?

I knew this girl for more than 3 years and had never done anything with her (Besides kissing). She is a girl of unearthly beauty and I regretted not making a move earlier as I wasn't that experienced back then. If I could turn back time I would do it but that isn't possible. I realized I made too many mistakes, buying expensive gifts (when we wouldn't in a proper relationship), being too clingy and focusing too much energy on her. She flirted back with me and played hard to get, and I was obsessed about her. Any guy that saw her in the club wanted her, she was just that beautiful and was always one step ahead of the game.

After a long time, I said to heck with it and tried to pick up other girls. I read up a bit on seduction techniques and stuff, I was a naturally confident guy and good looking thus it was pretty easy. Instead of focusing my attention entirely on one girl, I would initially pique interest with my target before being slightly nonchalant with her and focus my attention on another girl (usually someone less pretty). This would severely confuse her and make her desire me. This method was so powerful, it was almost exclusively the only method I used and it worked every time, it was like bees to honey and I felt like I had the keys to unlock a whole new realm of possibilities.

Moving back to the first girl, I had not seen her for the past 1 year. Previously, I had tried my luck with her, I popped the question of bringing her back to my place, she said no. (Because I was dumb enough to drag the whole thing for 2 years). Probably, I was friend-zoned. The surprising hope is that I still have her number and her SPAM and she had not block me. A few months ago, she messaged "Hi, how are you?" to me and I replied "Ok, fine". Since then, we had occasionally exchanged messages and she even replied with smileys. I then brought up my courage to ask her if I could meet her sometime in the future, she said yes sure.

Now, I do not want to make any mistakes with her again. Honestly, what do you guys think my chances are? How should I approach in this case? I can never understand how she is thinking, so any advice from the pros here is welcomed.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:11 pm 
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In my experience, the longer you leave it, the less likely you're going to sleep with her.

When was the last time you spoke to her?

Who is to say if she is still single?

Anyway, what I would do is:

get in touch with her, have a flirt and then ask her to go for a drink with you. Make sure you escalate and the truth will be revealed if she likes you or not..

If she says no, or a maybe... Then I would move on with life

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:13 pm 
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In my experience, the longer you leave it, the less likely you're going to sleep with her.

When was the last time you spoke to her?

Who is to say if she is still single?

Anyway, what I would do is:

get in touch with her, have a flirt and then ask her to go for a drink with you. Make sure you escalate and the truth will be revealed if she likes you or not..

If she says no, or a maybe... Then I would move on with life

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:57 pm 
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As Pebble said, I agree, but you already may have fucked yourself over.
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She is a girl of unearthly beauty
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I made too many mistakes, buying expensive gifts (when we wouldn't in a proper relationship), being too clingy and focusing too much energy on her. I was obsessed about her.
Your post still has that obsessive vibe. Like she's a unique and special snowflake. Your Holy Grail.

She's not.

What makes her worth it? Why is she so special? What did she do to justify all the attention she seems to feel entitled to?

Get that 'special' mentality out of your head before making contact.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:40 am 
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As Pebble said, I agree, but you already may have fucked yourself over.
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She is a girl of unearthly beauty
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I made too many mistakes, buying expensive gifts (when we wouldn't in a proper relationship), being too clingy and focusing too much energy on her. I was obsessed about her.
Your post still has that obsessive vibe. Like she's a unique and special snowflake. Your Holy Grail.

She's not.

What makes her worth it? Why is she so special? What did she do to justify all the attention she seems to feel entitled to?

Get that 'special' mentality out of your head before making contact.
She is beautiful and she is always the center of attraction. I know I shouldn't be obsessed but what should I exactly do?

How do I approach her in this case? This is totally different from approaching a new girl as she already knew that I had tried to hit on her and failed. But she never shut me off from her life (like deleting contact), but instead even initiated messages with me recently.

It feels like i'm in between a friend to lover zone. Thus, she has never allowed me to do anything with her, but she has never outright kick me out from her life. I have never seen her for a long time already (almost a year) and I wonder if this absence allows me to have a chance to go back to lover zone.

Thoughts?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:42 am 
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Your her friend, plain and simple. You never made any move so we'll never know what could have been - take it as a learning lesson. Escalate sooner, not later.

If she always liked you than making a move now will reveal that, but if you make a move and she rejects you you gotta be cool with things and let it be. It's tough to say if she'll be cool being friends with you again or just feel awkward.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:11 am 
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3 years dude? You're her friend whether you like it or not... and it's pretty damn hard to change someones perception of you


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Dude, use what you ve learned during that year you spent sarging ! My advices : Ok She is a 10, make her feel like she is a 8 ; tease and neg her as hell… She has always gotten all the intention, and what show her this is you quite indifferent! Stop being clingy, make her run after you* .. The facts is, she did not love the previous you and it won’t change if you still remains the same, show her that you’ve changed, show her all things you’ve internalized since the last day you saw each other ! She needs to be reframe ! :wink:


* one trick I used is to invite her to spend a night with some friend of mine, just to enjoy a drink and have good time, I previously warned my friends that she was mine, so during the night I almost “ignored” her , I was staying with my friends and got all the intention .. after that night she called me and text me blablabla and some days after she texted me saying that she had feeling for me … :lol:


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Extremely unlikely but it does happen. However, when it happens it's usually a fluke or the girl is super sexually/physically attracted to you. Best advice is to move on or become a much more attractive person (not just physically)

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As Pebble said, I agree, but you already may have fucked yourself over.
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She is a girl of unearthly beauty
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I made too many mistakes, buying expensive gifts (when we wouldn't in a proper relationship), being too clingy and focusing too much energy on her. I was obsessed about her.
Your post still has that obsessive vibe. Like she's a unique and special snowflake. Your Holy Grail.

She's not.

What makes her worth it? Why is she so special? What did she do to justify all the attention she seems to feel entitled to?

Get that 'special' mentality out of your head before making contact.
She is beautiful and she is always the center of attraction. I know I shouldn't be obsessed but what should I exactly do?

How do I approach her in this case? This is totally different from approaching a new girl as she already knew that I had tried to hit on her and failed. But she never shut me off from her life (like deleting contact), but instead even initiated messages with me recently.

It feels like i'm in between a friend to lover zone. Thus, she has never allowed me to do anything with her, but she has never outright kick me out from her life. I have never seen her for a long time already (almost a year) and I wonder if this absence allows me to have a chance to go back to lover zone.

Thoughts?
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It feels like i'm in between a friend to lover zone.
You are the “backup boyfriend”.

Yes, bethebest, you are that guy. The nice guy some women treat as a pretend boyfriend, the boyfriend substitute. The genuinely, terrifically nice guy who’s always has these women: women complaining to him about their boyfriends, women who call him on Valentine’s Day when other options vanish, women who want to date someone just like him.......except they won’t date him, because of the Asexual safety net you provide.


But that’s not how things have to be. Here’s the good news. It’s just you causing this pattern. It’s your pattern and it’s one that you can break. It’s a choice. You are the one who consents to being the AFC ‘safe’ backup guy.

You’re the one who needs to say, ‘I’m going to stop putting myself in the friend zone. I might as well be her girlfriend.’”

She doesn't need a pussy, she already has one.

Limit your friendships with women. They tend to make non-sexual relationships feel normal.

Stop being a pussy and take some risk and initiative.

Stop putting women on pedestals. Once you put a woman on a pedestal, she’s looking down at you.

Show sexual interest, set up a 'date' escalate, make your move, lead, take her to the bedroom like you would any girl your going to bang.

I guarantee you that a specific, take-charge frame is 100 percent more attractive and exciting for her than your hanging around, always hovering, being her emotional tampon, trying to win her approval.

But what if she blows me out and says no, you ask? SHE MIGHT. And in the big picture, that is not a bad thing.

You will have to learn to deal with that rejection and move on.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:31 am 
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The easy way is move on and find other girls.

The hard way build her up in your conversation, make her feels so good to be with you ..at the same time you must maintain sexual tension in the air, so the interaction won't see like a platonic friendship, rather a sexual one.

I just finish my post on seduce women like Don Juan, but haven't publish yet. Perhaps you can read my post on turn on a girl 1st, it might help thought.

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