Okay, I've had some first dates this year but not as many second dates. When arranging a second date (provided the first went well), is it a good idea to:

1. Ask at the end of date #1 'When can I see you again?'
2. Text then before you go to bed saying 'I had a great night/nice to see you/whatever'?
3. Should you resume texting the following day or should you wait a couple?
4. Chat over text/phone or go for another meet up when you start speaing again?

Basically I wanna know how to ask for the 2nd date without being needy/pushy.

Cheers

You should fuck her as soon as you can so she wants to see you again.

Enough of this "date" shit. Life isn't a Disney movie. No more dates. If you want a sexual relationship, make it a sexual relationship as soon as possible.

Get her to come over and put your dick inside of her. Make her cum two or three times and she'll want to see you again.

The realest thing I've seen you post

1. So ideally you set up time to meet during your first date. The other night I was out with a girl and we started talking about the botanical gardens. Next thing I know she is talking about paying for me to go with her - date 2 set up.

2. Don't text her saying goodnight/ you had fun unless she does it first. Even then, don't do it.

3. Wait a day before you start texting/calling again unless she hits you up first (which will rarely happen)

4. Don't go right into setting up a date.


I think I answered everything but it is late and for some reason I can't see your original post from this screen.

When I decide to do the "date" thing; I'll call them the next night bro. But when I go on a date thats obviously successful; its usually implied without saying that we will be seeing each other again.


So I guess the real question is.. What makes you think these dates were successful?

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Solid advice, cheers.

The only problems I have with that are:
1. PMO shit means I haven't had proper sex so I doubt I'll be doing much good in bed for a while
2. living with parents

1 I can sort by sorting my shit out, which I'm doing, and I know there's a lot of info out there for what to do in case of 2. and if you can't bring her back to yours. So no excuses, sort them out sexually and they'll be yours - got it.
Also solid advice, thanks. Think I've been coming across too needy. Just seen this as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNovswAlmio
Fair enough. I think it goes well if we both obviously enjoy ourselves and I'm snogging/making out with the girl loads and feeling her up a good bit, but I could be wrong

I tried watching that video of Tyler and I just couldn't do it. He talks too much and too fast.

Like Majikan say, if you can close the deal at 1st date. However when things not going as you plan, that's the time you need the second date.

Text her the following day and tell her it's fun meeting her yesterday. Give her two days / night you are free to meet her withing that week and ask her what's a good time for her.

Make the 2nd date as soon as possible. Then try to close her again this time.

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The way you arrange a second date is how you arrange a first date. You bring up a topic of a place that's fun, then invite her along. Setting up a second date during the first date is the easiest way.

What is PMO?

Stop listening to Owen on anything related to women. Or anything period, except maybe state control. RSD has nice state control stuff. Owen manages to sleep with about 6 women per year, from going out almost 200 times. And he says he hits on about 40 women on average each night. Over his 13 year career, he's slept with 50 women. Quick math(40*200*13) would indicate he's approached 100,000+ women. For a batting average of %0.0005. And none of the 50 are ever very hot. He has to approach over 2,000 women to get laid. He's a marketer, a motivational speaker, and arguably a cult leader, but has no clue about women. He just knows how to scam bros out of bootcamp money.

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Yeah his voice is definitely annoying but he's definitely right (in my case) about turning needy once you gain a certain level of interest with the girl
Solid advice, cheers
Porn/masturbation/orgasm addiction. Making your penis not work from conditioning it to respond only to your right hand.

The video I linked was Owen? I haven't seen any of that stuff before but what he said there (about becoming needy) definitely rung true with me, and about abundance being the cure. I don't know who he is or how well he does

I didn't watch the video, as I've seen more than enough from him. Listening to him on jacking off is fine I guess. I just assumed it had something to do with pickup.

Owen/Tyler. Tyler is his pickup name, Owen is his birth name. He's the leader of a little PUA cult called RSD. Their "game" basically consists of rapid fire hitting on everything with a pussy, randomly saying whatever pops into your head, never listening to anyone and grinding up against a woman as soon as you meet her. Then hoping that somehow produces sex.

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If you change, you lose. You MUST be the same guy, she met on 1st date. Otherwise you will fuck everything up.

My first dates are always perfect. But my 2nd dates sucks, simple because i cannot make it there. Why? Because i change my frame, im not cool anylonger, i start to do stuff, that im not supposed to, because it is something new for me. But actually, there are no difference between first and second dates(difference is your own intentions, such as if you are going for the sex).

So, my best advice, do not change yourself. Build comfort and ask her out, just like you did on first date. No need to make it difficult.