It's a little weird, but I always thought the whole clit thing sounded really boring. I think most women lie about what turns them on or something. They're not lesbians, amiright?

The girls I date have never used sex as a weapon. Normal women enjoy sex, and they don't even try to use it against you, when they know you have other options. Women only use sex as a weapon in order to gain some sort of compliance. IE Do this, then sex. This is entirely different from what I just said. A girl doesn't give head? Fine, she can keep that up - with some other guy who will tolerate it.
Try again. I've dated girls who can cum while giving head. Women are extremely cerebral when it comes to sex. This is why so many women can't orgasm with a partner until they're in the 20s. They aren't comfortable enough to do so. When they are in the right state of mind, things totally change.
Lol
I'm going to put a LOT of effort into sex, but no oral, anal or fingering. Because reasons!
You do not present yourself to be feminine in any sense of the word. You have made that overly clear in many circumstances. It's not just this. It's also things like maintaining a pleasant voice in a higher register. Bashing other women for being demure. Stating that you can't stand girls who follow a man's lead.
You are at absolute best, of neutral gender persuasion. We live in a patriarchy, so the default is male. The traits you describe range from neutral to masculine. I have yet to see you mention one feminine personality trait.

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If you win this thread: who cares? It's not your problem if I don't want to "give" head or anal. I just think sex is good-enough the old-fashioned way. No need to get mad and force your opinion.

I'm not looking for a temporary relationship, I'm looking for a committed, long-term relationship. Using sex as a weapon to get what you or for *any* reason causes relationships to eventually fall apart. I get it if you're going to withhold sex because you're literally so mad at the person you can't stand to look at them, which hey, happens to everyone every once and a while, but intentionally denying sex as a means to an end isn't ever cool.

I'm totally 100% about following the guy's lead in bed, but he has to respect my boundaries, which aren't actually that big of a deal. The best kind of sex is coitus anyway, and I'd have no problem frequently doing it.

If he wanted to try fingering me, he could go for it, but I would be bored. It's not my fault. But if he liked it, whatever... I just don't see the point when you could be having actual sex. Oh wow, second base.

If a woman is actually so shy and demure and talks in a high voice or whatever, I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with fakeness, passive-agresssion, and cock-blocking attitudes. It should be about being the best you, not about bad tricks, like the motto of this site. I also have a problem with women who shame other women for being up-front. That all should've been apparent, based on the nature of my comments.

Whatever. I don't need to prove my femininity to you, giant badger-rat. I'm very feminine, so there.

Patriarchy is actually the structure of your Mafia mob. The "Godfather" was the paterfamilias in that movie. It dates back to ancient Rome, and is basically Italian. Your oldest male ancestor lead the family, and the title of paterfamilias would get passed on to his male heir when he died. We don't really use that system anymore. People keep using that word...

I would argue that there isn't so much a logical system now as there is a way that people choose to behave. Patrilineal name-inheritance happens, but that's immaterial. As far as how the family-unit actually functions, there's a lot of variety.

You ever heard of foreplay or nah?

Believe it or not, I'm not looking to "win" this thread. You remind me of my friend Joel. I've taken a mild interest in pointing some things out to you. Do I expect to persuade now? No. But I *do* want you to think about these things. You probably won't reach the exact conclusion I have, but you're going to need to move from where you are if you're serious about seeking out a life partner.
He was like you. Totally inexperienced with rock hard, set definitions of everything he wanted and how everything needed to go. And much of it was totally unrealistic. Me an Amanda talked with him about this stuff on several occasions. We didn't change his mind about any of his starting positions, but he *did* grow more open minded on what he was willing to accept. He had struggled for years with dating, because he would cut girls off for variations of his plan. He didn't have exact physical specifications. It was all mental stuff.
I don't think I've been mad at any post I've ever read on this forum. That is the old fashioned way. Why do you think anal orgasms are possible for both men and women? Our primate ancestors were fucking that way too.
You said that any woman who makes an effort to behave in a more feminine manner is the type of person you hate.
Much of the masculine/feminine construct is cultural and not natural to anyone. Is this bad? I don't think so.
Biologically, we're programmed to stop whatever we're doing and take a shit on the floor. Culture tells us this isn't cool. I thank culture for that. Just as I thank it for cultivating cute hand gestures and swaying walks.

And that cuts the other way. I didn't learn about fashion to impress men. I didn't get my teeth whitened for men. I didn't go to a dermatologist to get get my acne cleared up for men.
I do a lot of things to attract women, and they do a lot of things to attract men. And you know what? It makes us better as a species.
You say you're here to learn something and presumably change your behavior in order to do better with your type of guy. Why do you feel this is different than what the girl artificially making her voice airier is doing?

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Face it Anime, Versalis is a lot cleverer than you. And his dick's a lot bigger than mine. But you still shouldn't suck it.

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No, he just creates that illusion by misquoting me and playing the "kind counselor" role after calling me a "butch" and stuff. Very soccer-mom PA of him...

Except for the big dick thing. Let's start a fan club for it. (but we won't suck it)

I'm open to foreplay, but not anal or giving oral. Just to clear-up confusion. Lol... duh, women need foreplay. W

Kind is nowhere in that. Joel was my friend, you aren't. He needed a kick in the ass, so do you.

You need to fundamentally rethink your beliefs from the ground up. Still being single in your mid-20s and being an Asian HB7 while actively seeking a husband should make it abundantly clear that something is wrong. This isn't a minor tactical issue. Being forward does not cause this problem. It's something else, and I have a hunch it's a lack of understanding yourself and your own sexuality. Dating and marriage are at their core sexual. You can't separate the two as you try to do.

P.S. Cliff's dick smells like raspberries and tastes like cinnamon. Don't ask how I know that.

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Wait.... so you expect a guy to eat you out as foreplay.... but you won't suck his dick?

LMFAO.... Good luck.

Guys like foreplay too.

And you should try anal before you knock it. You'd probably wind up liking it. Surprisingly, most girls actually end up loving it.

LOL, I don't give a fuck if he goes down or not. I really don't care. He'd probably want to anyway, if he isn't gay. Still not the same thing as a blowjob.

Whatever, I'm over it. If I'm expected to checklist every sexual fantasy my SO has, fuck that. I'd probably need to work and raise his stupid kids too. Doesn't sound like there's anything in it for me, so, over it.

I'm not Asian.

What's wrong is that I was raised poorly and told to wait around for men to bust a move. Doesn't work. I was just trying to find my own way to get laid.

Um yeah, because I made the implication that marriage wasn't sexual and that I wanted to get married for asexual reasons, like to live in a castle and have high-tea with my friend the Prince. That, and also I'm a Butch who wants the D, but no foreplay. And Asian.

Go ahead, try sticking another label on me. You'll get there eventually.

If a guy ever actually wanted to fuck you, he'd probably have no other choice to lick that dried up desert of a pussy of yours.

Sheesh lady. You seem very bitter towards men.

Good luck to you.

No, I made a valid point. What do I get out of a commitment? It sounds not worth it. Not hating, but it seriously doesn't sound awesome. You seem mad, tho. I'm sorry about that.

I'm actually not mad at all.

I'm shocked though that you think any self respecting man other there is going to accept your behavior.



You need a guy who's a push over. Or atleast that's what you're saying you want.

All this over head. This is bullshit.

The women you all date on here sound like major cock teases, but okay. If that's what people want to do, they can have it. I don't sleep with eight men at once and plan surprise breakups and say "wait, no!" at the last minute and shit like that. I'm just going to step outside of the arena.

People are crazy. Maybe I'll join Theraveda.