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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:01 pm 
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I'm not sure if it stems from a crazy high amount of self esteem, but it's in the way she speaks and does things. Let's call her H.

In some scenarios she asks 'shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed'?

She asks me to scold my friends when they do things that offend her. Furthermore, she mandates that I belong to the same religion as her. I don't mind because my family belongs to that religion as well, but it annoys my inner man meter at the thought that she's controlling more than she should. I'm not sure why either..

I don't feel like moving on just yet. How does one deal with a girl who constantly pushes to exert dominance in a relationship?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:15 pm 
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Look in your pants, d*ck still there? Balls still attached? This girl is not your end all be all and if she will provide the same respect to you that you show her or that you think you deserve, punish her. Do not beat her but emotionally punish her. Withdraw some of the fun you let her have with you and the attention you pay to her until she understands that you do not roll that way and she needs to temper herself.

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In some scenarios she asks 'shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed'?
No idea what this means... you're going to need to provide detail. When she says this are you being a cunt and do you deserve it?

She sounds like a gem, regardless... If that religion shit isn't enough to push you away, I hope you don't mind if she carries your balls for you when you walk down the street together.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:36 pm 
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More like massive insecurity masquerading as high-self esteem.

She's showing signs of cray, I'd walk on this one.


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I'm not sure if it stems from a crazy high amount of self esteem, but it's in the way she speaks and does things. Let's call her H.

In some scenarios she asks 'shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed'?

She asks me to scold my friends when they do things that offend her. Furthermore, she mandates that I belong to the same religion as her. I don't mind because my family belongs to that religion as well, but it annoys my inner man meter at the thought that she's controlling more than she should. I'm not sure why either..

I don't feel like moving on just yet. How does one deal with a girl who constantly pushes to exert dominance in a relationship?

As CharlesFinely said, more details.
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In some scenarios she asks 'shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed'?
Context? details?
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She asks me to scold my friends when they do things that offend her.
Again, context and details. What do your friends do that offend her? Couple examples
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Furthermore, she mandates that I belong to the same religion as her.
This I can see as controlling, but again, more details. If she is saying she can only be with a Christian/Muslim/Catholic man and you're saying I can change into that, that's not really her.

From what you've decribed, I dont really know if she is hyper dominant or if you just are trying to please her and butt hurt over it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:19 am 
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This I can see as controlling, but again, more details. If she is saying she can only be with a Christian/Muslim/Catholic man and you're saying I can change into that, that's not really her.
Yeah that's precisely what it is. It happened very early on in the relationship (aha, there's my problem isn't it?). It always bothered me a little internally but I never put any stock into it.
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From what you've decribed, I dont really know if she is hyper dominant or if you just are trying to please her and butt hurt over it.
I don't deny being beta but I have no clue how to exert dominance. i was brought up in a family where obedience was key, leading to a very meek personality which I feel I would do better without. However I feel both ends of that statement are true-that she is dominant, and that I am supplicating and butthurt about it.

That's why I am attempting to do things differently.
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More like massive insecurity masquerading as high-self esteem.
I don't quite understand how this is possible. I've heard of it before, but never understood. Please tell me more.
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In some scenarios she asks 'shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed'?
Context? details?

I should correct the template of the statement that irks me, it's actually along the lines of 'in X situation, shouldn't you be doing Y for H?'

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There are two examples.

First was when I specifically asked to speak to her about my beef with her looking at this other guy with doe eyes all the time.

She crumbled into a mess of sobs and physically attempted to press her body hard against me (i suspect this was meant to supplicate me, but I cannot be sure). I stood my ground and insisted that this was a problem, and that crying would get her nowhere. She admitted to crushing on him before, and we got a deal for her to help me look as good as him.

Right after that she collapsed in a conscious faint. My gut doubts the legitimacy of it, but I always put safety over other things so I arm carried her back to her girlfriends and went to meet my friend because we'd prearranged a meeting (I had no idea how this would blow up in such a manner).

A few days later she comes back to me and complains 'you know, when your girlfriend is sick you should actually send her back rather than let her stay with her friends, who probably cannot physically support her'. I kept quiet because I was still undecided as to the legitimacy of the fainting.

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Second situation. My friends recently booted a post of mine from 3 years back to the top of my timeline. Inside I jokingly express a desire to marry a foreign girl due to facial similarities. It's embarrassing but it's years ago and way before I even got together with her.

My friends (15-20 of them) couldn't stop commenting on or liking it, so it was practically at the top of the news feed for a whole day. I know that reacting to it in the initial stages will generally make the shitstorm even bigger. So I keep my cool and jab them back in the comments.

She says I should discipline my friends for misbehaving.

And also, 'when that post resurfaced, shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed? It's as if I do not exist to your friends.' After that she complains about me having low maturity.

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There's your context.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:35 am 
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People with HEALTHY (not "high") self-esteem aren't trying to change nor judge others. They simply see things for what they are, and accept people for their flaws (including themselves), and know that none of us are infallible beings. When somebody is egoic they try to change their surroundings, including those around them; that is not a healthy sense of self but rather out of insecurity within themselves.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:12 am 
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This I can see as controlling, but again, more details. If she is saying she can only be with a Christian/Muslim/Catholic man and you're saying I can change into that, that's not really her.
Yeah that's precisely what it is. It happened very early on in the relationship (aha, there's my problem isn't it?). It always bothered me a little internally but I never put any stock into it.
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From what you've decribed, I dont really know if she is hyper dominant or if you just are trying to please her and butt hurt over it.
I don't deny being beta but I have no clue how to exert dominance. i was brought up in a family where obedience was key, leading to a very meek personality which I feel I would do better without. However I feel both ends of that statement are true-that she is dominant, and that I am supplicating and butthurt about it.

That's why I am attempting to do things differently.
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More like massive insecurity masquerading as high-self esteem.
I don't quite understand how this is possible. I've heard of it before, but never understood. Please tell me more.
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In some scenarios she asks 'shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed'?
Context? details?

I should correct the template of the statement that irks me, it's actually along the lines of 'in X situation, shouldn't you be doing Y for H?'

---

There are two examples.

First was when I specifically asked to speak to her about my beef with her looking at this other guy with doe eyes all the time.

She crumbled into a mess of sobs and physically attempted to press her body hard against me (i suspect this was meant to supplicate me, but I cannot be sure). I stood my ground and insisted that this was a problem, and that crying would get her nowhere. She admitted to crushing on him before, and we got a deal for her to help me look as good as him.

Right after that she collapsed in a conscious faint. My gut doubts the legitimacy of it, but I always put safety over other things so I arm carried her back to her girlfriends and went to meet my friend because we'd prearranged a meeting (I had no idea how this would blow up in such a manner).

A few days later she comes back to me and complains 'you know, when your girlfriend is sick you should actually send her back rather than let her stay with her friends, who probably cannot physically support her'. I kept quiet because I was still undecided as to the legitimacy of the fainting.

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Second situation. My friends recently booted a post of mine from 3 years back to the top of my timeline. Inside I jokingly express a desire to marry a foreign girl due to facial similarities. It's embarrassing but it's years ago and way before I even got together with her.

My friends (15-20 of them) couldn't stop commenting on or liking it, so it was practically at the top of the news feed for a whole day. I know that reacting to it in the initial stages will generally make the shitstorm even bigger. So I keep my cool and jab them back in the comments.

She says I should discipline my friends for misbehaving.

And also, 'when that post resurfaced, shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed? It's as if I do not exist to your friends.' After that she complains about me having low maturity.

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There's your context.
This sounds like more you being beta than her being dominant.

1. If she says she only dates a certain religion and you tell her you will change for her, that's on YOU. Consider yourself lucky she didn't dump you there after doing that. She didn't mandate anything or tell you you had to take her religion.

2. The fainting thing....Well, the guy thing is another story. Whether the faint was real or not, carrying her in your arms and dropping her at her friends to meet your friends would be taken as kinda cold and uncaring on your part. She could be a manipulative bitch, but you left yourself open to that when you didn't address the situation before leaving.

3. The facebook thing sounds like a logical question. If a post about another girl popped up on your fb,...shouldn't you be thinking what your gf would think? For eg, if someone posted a pic of me and my ex from years ago kissing on my fb wall, I'd delete it immediately. Sure...it's from years ago, sure it means nothing, but I know it would suck for my gf to see that. The discipline thing for misbehaving sounds bitchy on her part, but then again, you became vague on what your friends wrote and how you replied. For eg, if your friends were egging you that you should marry this girl or that she's perfect for you and you were agreeing or playing along, yes it's disrespectful to her and as her bf, you should not entertain it. Joke or not, if your friends are digging up old posts about some girl when you have a gf it's immature. I wouldn't entertain my friends talking about an old girl around my current girl.

The only alarm I see is the other guy thing but you left out details there. Also, why the hell would you come to a deal about making you look like him? No offense, but you're being super beta. You'll obviously do anything to keep this girl. The other guy thing and fainting sound sketchy, but something is way off about you so I can't even believe she's as bad as you make her sound.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:31 am 
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This I can see as controlling, but again, more details. If she is saying she can only be with a Christian/Muslim/Catholic man and you're saying I can change into that, that's not really her.
Yeah that's precisely what it is. It happened very early on in the relationship (aha, there's my problem isn't it?). It always bothered me a little internally but I never put any stock into it.
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From what you've decribed, I dont really know if she is hyper dominant or if you just are trying to please her and butt hurt over it.
I don't deny being beta but I have no clue how to exert dominance. i was brought up in a family where obedience was key, leading to a very meek personality which I feel I would do better without. However I feel both ends of that statement are true-that she is dominant, and that I am supplicating and butthurt about it.

That's why I am attempting to do things differently.

It sounds very much to me that you have difficult drawing a distinction between assertiveness and aggression; operating from an obedience frame your whole life can make the distinction very murky, and as a result engaging in any assertive behavior will feel unnatural. Learning what healthy boundaries look like would be a good place for you to start. I hear good things about this book from my colleague/friend http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/boundar ... 0310494812
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More like massive insecurity masquerading as high-self esteem.
I don't quite understand how this is possible. I've heard of it before, but never understood. Please tell me more.
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In some scenarios she asks 'shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed'?
Context? details?

I should correct the template of the statement that irks me, it's actually along the lines of 'in X situation, shouldn't you be doing Y for H?'

---

There are two examples.

First was when I specifically asked to speak to her about my beef with her looking at this other guy with doe eyes all the time.

She crumbled into a mess of sobs and physically attempted to press her body hard against me (i suspect this was meant to supplicate me, but I cannot be sure). I stood my ground and insisted that this was a problem, and that crying would get her nowhere. She admitted to crushing on him before, and we got a deal for her to help me look as good as him.

Right after that she collapsed in a conscious faint. My gut doubts the legitimacy of it, but I always put safety over other things so I arm carried her back to her girlfriends and went to meet my friend because we'd prearranged a meeting (I had no idea how this would blow up in such a manner).

I can speculate on her intentions, but I won't as that is fruitless. Her behavior, however (e.g. fainting) is mellow dramatic, may be a bit on the histrionic side

A few days later she comes back to me and complains 'you know, when your girlfriend is sick you should actually send her back rather than let her stay with her friends, who probably cannot physically support her'. I kept quiet because I was still undecided as to the legitimacy of the fainting.

Drama.

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Second situation. My friends recently booted a post of mine from 3 years back to the top of my timeline. Inside I jokingly express a desire to marry a foreign girl due to facial similarities. It's embarrassing but it's years ago and way before I even got together with her.

Why rock the boat with that comment. Anyone with at least half a brain would know it'd be incendiary, so my question is WHY?

My friends (15-20 of them) couldn't stop commenting on or liking it, so it was practically at the top of the news feed for a whole day. I know that reacting to it in the initial stages will generally make the shitstorm even bigger. So I keep my cool and jab them back in the comments.

She says I should discipline my friends for misbehaving.

What she's saying is you should know how to set proper boundaries with your friends. Your "jab" at their comments in and of itself wasn't evidence of that in her mind. Are you afraid to assert yourself with your friends, or did you just not see the harm on this post?

And also, 'when that post resurfaced, shouldn't you also be thinking oh shit, H will be pissed? It's as if I do not exist to your friends.' After that she complains about me having low maturity.

"Low maturity" - she feels irrelevant, or at least did so with the way you'd responded to that post. She has needsto be respected and valued, both weren't met by how you dealt with the post IMHO.

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There's your context.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:57 am 
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The 'rocking the boat' comment had been made three years prior. If anything, I explicitly told my friends that circumstances had changed since then in the comments.

Essentially:
2011: I want 2 marry foreign girl
Early 2014: relationship is formed
2014: friends rez 'I want 2 marry foreign girl' post
2014 after rez: guys, circumstances have changed

I assumed she understood the time gap between post date and relationship inception date. Heck, I explained it to her to make sure.

At the end I told my friends to stop posting (to which most of them did, except for two guys who failed to read). I do not know if this counts as (and I am apprehensive towards) asserting myself because frankly I have very little experience with doing so.

I'm not familiar with histrionics or drama, and nothing I've read in PUA has ever dealt with it. Please advise me further.


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