***Fair warning, this is probably going to end up being pretty long...there won't be a tl;dr because you need to read the whole thing in order to give a proper answer

Long time since I've posted here, simply because things have been looking up for the most part. I really haven't had any issues lately with my game....the only thing that makes this different, is this chick is one of the coolest people I have ever met, and is perhaps in the future somebody I would consider dating (which is not like me)

Now pause a bit...just because she is somebody I would consider dating DOES NOT mean I am putting her on a pedestal. I am not. I am very level headed. I just need a few opinions so I can improve my game in further similar situations.

Okay, so, this was our first time actually meeting in person. She works in a local shop, and I have seen her there on various occasions, but I was never there long enough, or the situation never arose where I could get her number in person. Why? Because I am not going to be that fucking douchebag that says "hey baby write your # on my receipt." Simply put, that is just not me... My success rate using that method, ehhh...not the best.

Luckily, however, a girl that I have a few classes with posted a photo of the two together. After confirming that it was actually her, I commented and said "hey, I know that girl!"
Immediately afterwards, she "liked" a few of my pictures, so I sent her a message and got her number.
I waited until the next day, texted her, and everything was moving along normally, and perfectly.

I set up the date for today, being very careful not to come across like a pussy. Was very straight forward. "Pick you up at 5. I'm taking you to the river. I know some cool places with some badass views. You down?" (she complimented me on being a man and having plans prepared instead of the usual "hey what do you wanna do)

Obviously, she said yes. Here's where it starts.

I picked her up as planned. Honestly, at first, I had to do a double take, because holy shit.... She is a 10/10 with perfect skin, teeth, blonde hair, and beautiful hazel brown eyes. I couldn't believe this shit was happening to me. Anyway, right off the bat, we clicked. We talked about some things, including personal life, shit that I leave out of text messaging because it's fucking boring.

I don't know if it was the 3 hydrocodone I popped (for my knee) prior to picking her up, but every thing was moving along smoothly. I was like James Bond or some shit. She was laughing, and really digging me. I made sure to throw in comments, without boasting, to DHV myself a bit, if she brought the topic up first, of course. She even called me "fucking hot" at one point.

When talking about her hair, I played with it, and ran it through my fingers, complimenting her on her beautiful natural hair color. She ate it up, or so it seemed. Before we made it to the river (or the trail that leads down to the river) I stopped and bought a water, because it was hot as fuck outside. I didn't make a big deal out of it at all, but I bought her a $1 water as well... Now, hopefully this didn't come across as me trying too hard, because for fuck's sake... It's a goddamn $1 water, and I'm not going to make her die of thirst. Can somebody confirm that this was an okay thing to do? It's not like I made it a big deal or anything, I just bought it and handed it to her and said, "for you loser" with a smille.

So we made it to the beginning of the trail that leads down to the river. It's absolutely beautiful outside. There is a bit of mud on the trail, but not a big deal (I told her to wear some shoes she didn't mind getting dirty)
She was absolutely enjoying it out there! I could sense it! She was very talkative and very interested in me and what I had to say, didn't get on her phone at all, in fact, she left it in the car. Every now and then I would bust her balls a bit, or throw in a cheeky comment here and there. For example, she said " I am glad I wore these shorts, they are so much more comfortable to walk in" and I said "yeah, I'm glad you wore them too" with a smirk.

I swear guys. I was fucking Sean Connery or some shit. Maybe I need to refill my script of Hydros? Holy fuck? We get down to the river, and she is fucking loving it. I show her some cool spots and we decide to chill on a rock for a bit. I put my arm around her for a bit, and caressed her hair. She was touching me a lot as well, for example, one time she put her hand on my leg.
She would playfully hit me and shit as well.

She did have to get her back early, however, because she is leaving for vacation tomorrow. The car ride home was filled with the same vibes as the car ride to the river. Now, here's where things went south, or so I think.

We get out of the car, and I walk her over to her car. Now, since it was my first time actually talking to her in person, I didn't know if kissing her was the right thing to do...however, based on the amount of kino and since she was digging it so much, I gave it a shot.

Meh.... The kiss was kind of shitty. Should have used more hand, perhaps on her chin or something, and I know this. It has just been awhile since I've done the whole relationship thing. Since it was hot as fuck outside, my mouth was dry as fuck too. After I kissed her, I had a case of the verbal shits and said something retarded. I don't quite remember what it was.
But goddamn, the kiss was terrible. I fucked it up. How can I spit such perfect game then fuck up when it's clutch time? After the kiss, she giggled a bit, then got in her car and left. I texted her and said, "you impressed me today, you are very cool!"

Perhaps not the greatest text to send, but I don't think it helped or hurt me. She answered back a bit later. Right now I have 3 text messages from her, on my phone, that seem, "okay" I guess.... Just a couple cheeky comments about shit I said earlier in the day. She used emoji's and shit like that. I haven't answered yet, and I'm not going to until the morning.

I just can't get it out of my head that I fucked the kiss up. I am afraid she will think I'm inexperienced and head for the hills. However, she IS still texting me, so that shows some interest, right? Am I just making a big deal out of this or did I fuck things up for good?

My current plan is, not answer her tonight, and hit her with the dream routine tomorrow. I'm going to tell her I had a dream about her, in which she came to my house wearing a sexy black dress and, put frankly, I fucked the hell out of her. It has worked for me before, and I think could yield great results again if executed properly. I think this will salvage things and get her thinking, "okay, maybe all first kisses are awkward and he isn't a pussy, I'm still gonna give him a chance"

Does this seem to be the right thing to do, just in case she is sitting at home right now and analyzing it and shit...

Do you think I am overreacting? The date went PERFECT, until the end. Will she forget about it and give me another chance or am I fucked for fucking ever?

Thank you.

You've already fucked up by caring too much. Back up buddy.

I agree with n2 -- you're really stressing over some minor shit, here!

A $1 water? Why was that even a thing in this post? It's fine... yes, buy her a water.

The drugs... 3 of em will fuck up sex for you, buddy... unless you have a REALLY high tolerance to that stuff (I've had it, and a lot of it)... so beware if you get her back to your place and think you need 3 more vicodin to turn on the charm again.

I guess I don't get how you fuck up a kiss... unless you licked her eyeball or some shit, then I'm sure it was fine and you're just over-stressing it.

I would pretend the kiss didn't happen... and make the next one good.

You have 100% put this girl on the pedestal.

I didn't even need to read all of that to know it. Putting "I haven't put this girl on the pedestal" already screamed "I definitely have put her on the pedestal" along with "I had to do a double take" and "oh i fucked up the kiss."

Stop being a little reactive pussy boi. Oh noes the kiss went badly. boohoo, lets whine and bitch on a forum in a MASSIVE post about it. FUCK THAT, just boss it next time. If she makes a decision on not to see you again based on a bad kiss compared to an awesome day then she's not the "amazing" girl you make her out to be.

Fair responses, thanks

Hey man,

I skimmed through this whole thing, but if you want to give me a shorter concise version reach out to me in my inbox and i'll be able to tailor something a little more directly at you.

Anyway..

I give this advice to another member recently and judging from what I've skimmed through you maybe able to grab a jewel or two from it.

"There is no concrete evidence to back what I am about to say. Its more of a metaphysical thing, but what I've experienced and what many people I've known have experienced is women can always hold out for a moment longer than the point where it seems almost unbearable for men. By unbearable I mean.. At the point where you are feeling like " Fuck this shit.. I'm going to just call/text/ her". When its so strong is the point at which she is thinking about contacting you the most.

Energy always follows thought.

Now let me say; if you reach out to contact her at this point, you will be putting off an opportunity for you to learn the power of letting the woman go. And this is a lesson all men must learn before they can become truly successful with women. You only learn this lesson by letting go out of choice, not necessity.

Men tend to thank they've let women go after they texted her 10 times, called her 3 and she ignore them. Thats not letting the woman go. Thats called picking the only option you have left. You let go out of necessity, not choice. So you don't acquire the stronger sense of presence/aura that attracts women that a man acquires from letting go of women he still has a chance with. You don't grow - you don't learn. You stay on your current level.

I could go on and on about this, but the moral of the passage is; if you're interested in growing in the long run, I would leave this one alone. She may reach out - she may not, but what you will acquire will be much more beneficial than any one relationship ever could be.

Now if that isn't your interest and you feel both comfortable and content with where you are on your journey. Call her don't text. Call her up and let her know that you'd still like to continue to see her. Be cool and be calm; like you've been busy in life lately, but you've accomplished a few things and you now have time to date again. A woman is always responsive to that kind of energy.

With all due love in respect,

Peace bro."

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Next time, kiss her during the date. Never, ever, ever go for an awkward end of date kiss.

I don't understand how someone with your level of experience hasn't figured this out yet.

You were outside, in front of a fucking river. When she's smiling and laughing, tell her she has great lips and you're thinking about kissing them or something. Then do it. If you've been out with her for a half hour and she's having a good time, it's time to kiss her.

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