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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:23 am 
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Hello,


I am a good looking guy, 185cm tall with muscular body.
I am quite good at talking to girls which I meet through friends and so (at my uni for example) , but I can't and don't know how to meet women at clubs. I don't know how to approach.
When I go out to a club with friends I get looks from some girls but I never do anything, it's like I'm too scared to approach and talk because of fear of rejection. Even if I approached I wouldn't really
know how to act, what to say and else. I am 19 and I don't remember the last time
I picked-up a girl in a nightclub.

What should I do in a club, follow the three second rule and approach the girl immediately?
How should I act?


Regards,

NeoXx


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:38 am 
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Hey dude,

It's a common problem so don't feel like you're alone with this. It's called Approach Anxiety.

The only "cure" for it is desensitisation. You need to just go out there and expose yourself to approaching women to the point that you don't care what happens. When you're nervous or have reservations about approaching women but do it anyway they can sense it. You'll stammer, have weak body language and feel really forced.

So, the good is it's easy to fix but the bad is it's very hands on and forward.

I would suggest opening with opinion openers while you're breaking in your "approach and opening boots." It's scripted, open ended and can serve as a good conversation started. "Hey, can I get your opinion on something..." then ask their opinion on random shit. It can be outlandish and weird as long as it evokes a genuine opinion that isn't an extreme.

Hell, you could approach a girl and say "You look like you'd be into this kind of stuff... What's better *Some nerdy shit vs other nerdy shit*" The idea for this is to approach and get used to it, specifically to see and understand that women aren't going to bite your head off.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:48 pm 
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Hey dude,

It's a common problem so don't feel like you're alone with this. It's called Approach Anxiety.

The only "cure" for it is desensitisation. You need to just go out there and expose yourself to approaching women to the point that you don't care what happens. When you're nervous or have reservations about approaching women but do it anyway they can sense it. You'll stammer, have weak body language and feel really forced.

So, the good is it's easy to fix but the bad is it's very hands on and forward.

I would suggest opening with opinion openers while you're breaking in your "approach and opening boots." It's scripted, open ended and can serve as a good conversation started. "Hey, can I get your opinion on something..." then ask their opinion on random shit. It can be outlandish and weird as long as it evokes a genuine opinion that isn't an extreme.

Hell, you could approach a girl and say "You look like you'd be into this kind of stuff... What's better *Some nerdy shit vs other nerdy shit*" The idea for this is to approach and get used to it, specifically to see and understand that women aren't going to bite your head off.
Thanks! Will try it out :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:14 am 
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I've been doing a lot of reading on inner psychology and spirituality recently and I have noticed something that has reduced my approach anxiety like 90%.

The idea is that of surrendering to the moment.

I never really bought into the idea that approach anxiety and LMR are hardwired, my thinking behind this is two-fold through experience rather than theorizing.

After you have done three or so approaches in a night the AA is gone.

to me approach anxiety has alwasy felt like a fight between wanting to get the girl and wanting to avoid embarassment(that was a couple years ago) or avoid having to do a lot of work. So there were clearly two conflicting drives.

So in reading The Power of Now Eckhart Tolle talks about letting go of both the past and the future and focusing purely on the present. This piece of advice in of of itself reduced my approach anxiety, because if you truly do let go of past thinking, it doesn't allow you to think about past failures, or your lack of success with women or reasons from before not to approach the set, because that is not occuring here and now. Here and now you have nothing. In a bar or club or on the street.. or wherever you ay want to do an approach you only have the present. Nothing else matters. Her reaction is in the future, so there is no reason to worry about that either. When you go in the field you need to be hyper focues on the present. Don't think follow the strongest desire you have.

If you are reading this, then the strongest desire you have is to meet and fuck new women. Don't be ashamed of this desire. It's the only desire that keeps us as a species surviving. A lot of guys hide their desires,( A quick caveat obviously you don't approach a girl and ask her if she wants to fuck that's not showing you're desires, it's just showing your lack of social intuition) But what I mean is don't hide your desires internally. It is a vital step in becoming a man to come to grips with the dark sides of your desires. Mainly your desires to fuck, kill, and dominate. These are natural human emotions that have shaped the world, in a way they are the only desires that actually matter.

The second part of my technique is to surrender to your desires. Stop fighting them... Accept that you feel Approach Anxiety at the same time you feel the desire to approach, stop trying to feel more confident or stronger, or more prepared, and start focusing on what you WANT to do right now. In this moment when you see that girl, what do you most want to do... That won't land you in jail.

All that in fighting in your mind that clutter has NOTHING to do with reality.
Finer AA advice, I have not seen.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:50 am 
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Hello,


I am a good looking guy, 185cm tall with muscular body.
I am quite good at talking to girls which I meet through friends and so (at my uni for example) , but I can't and don't know how to meet women at clubs. I don't know how to approach.
When I go out to a club with friends I get looks from some girls but I never do anything, it's like I'm too scared to approach and talk because of fear of rejection. Even if I approached I wouldn't really
know how to act, what to say and else. I am 19 and I don't remember the last time
I picked-up a girl in a nightclub.

What should I do in a club, follow the three second rule and approach the girl immediately?
How should I act?


Regards,

NeoXx

Stop trying to act "cool."

Don't worry about embarrassing yourself.

Most people don't really care about what you're doing and if they do... They are just sitting there thinking they wish they could go up and talk to a girl. But if they do laugh at you, just ignore it.

Treat it like a little kid learning to walk. You're gonna fall down a few times. And all the adults are going to laugh at you. You just laugh too, get right back up, and try and walk again.

The key is to keep laughing and make yourself have fun.

Pretend that for those few hours, you are not you. You are controlling this little puppet or character (whatever you want to refer to it as) and making it do the cool shit that you wish you could do.

After a while, it just become who you are.

Hope this helps


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:28 am 
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Pretend that for those few hours, you are not you. You are controlling this little puppet or character (whatever you want to refer to it as) and making it do the cool shit that you wish you could do.
Solid. Thanks for that.


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