So, all the time there are regular guys who criticize your game and offer "advice". Normally it is how to act more AFC. I know why they do it, and it's usually one of a small number of things.

You could argue. You could listen and get all self conscious about it. Or you could laugh at it because he is really a chode who is fixated on you and has seen you talking to all the girls HE wanted to talk to. "Be less bold", "Be smaller", "worry about strangers' opinions constantly"... these are their secrets to social success. In short, don't take chances.

Lately I disinterestedly ask for them to enlighten me, show me the true path. Then when they are rambling I ask, "why are you so interested in what I'm doing." "What do you care?". I know that the real answer it that they are resentful and insecure. They play the protector role regarding woman. Since they don't want to say that, they instead stammer and become lost in their heads, thus looking and feeling lame.

Stories or insight? Where you once these guys too?

Very well stated.

Have never been that way. Was always a go getter.

There are people who do, people who watch and people who criticize in life. No just in PUA but
any endeavor. You will see this behavior over and over again in life.

Your one of the people who do...keep doing

Or you can choose not to sit and judgment and realize that everyone starts somewhere.

If you're really confident in yourself you'll see the futility of judging others by where they're at.

In short, who cares (only the egoic, that's whom).

Thank you.


From Wiki:

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in two principal ways:

1 Unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1]
2 Those persons to whom a skill or set of skills come easily may find themselves with weak self-confidence, as they may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. See Impostor syndrome.

David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".[2]

To play devil's advocate, unless you get CONSISTENT results from what you do, all advice/theory is equal. The "chode" telling you what to do may have another motive for doing so. Likewise, the guru you follow may only want your money. Do I value a guru's advice over a chode? No. I try both and see what works. I value what works over the source. If something works CONSISTENTLY (not 1 out of 10 times) for you and someone tells you otherwise, just tell them no and the results you got.

I remember a young girl (I guess you could call her an HB9 or HB10 from her looks, but a HB2 from her IQ) who wanted to give me "advice" all the time (how to be more attractive to girls). She was quite annoying and all her advice was completely wrong and irrelevant. I still have no clue why she felt that need to guide me, since we weren't even friends, she was just a friend's fuck buddy.

Just a funny memory.

Simply not true. Take information on it's own merit, but if you already know enough to know their advice is exactly the stuff that people learn PUA to get away from, how could it possibly be equal? Can't.

"That's joke was inappropriate". "You can't just walk up and talk to whoever you want". "Don't make so much eye contact". bla bla... I don't care if I never touch another girl again, this type of "advice" is pure crap.

Knowing what doesn't work does not mean the opposite works. Results are what justify saying something works for you. Not theory. Not if it does or does not make sense. If you get consistent results from something keep doing it. If you don't, try something new. On the flip side I meet guys in pu in my city who talk forever on what works but they have no evidence for it beside theory. For eg I met a guy recently who has done direct for over a year and has gotten nowhere. But he swears it works. I asked him how can you say that when neither you or your wings have any form of success with it? Maybe try indirect.

My point is if you believe something works, make sure you have results to back up your claim. If someone tells you another way, you should be able to say "well I do it like this and it CONSISTENTLY works"

You speak generally of the scientific method. That is my precise approach to PUA. I'm new, but I intake material and experiential data through a scientific lens. I don't even use the term "results" as you do. Everything is a result. In science jargon "theory" is used more limitedly: "Theory or Gravity", "Germ Theory of Disease", "Atomic Theory" etc... Evidence is part of, and support for, a theory. It is not "some idea in my head". It is EVERYTHING that fits together displaying our understanding of a phenomenon.

So, from this stand point, much "advice" is junk because it has no evidence. It is faith based social conditioning (according to my Theory of PUA). There is a HUGE body of knowledge in PUA. There is a lot of argument within the field, but some AFCs seem equivalent to the flat earth society. I don't have to pull threesomes with "HB 10"s to know good theory from bad. These things are well documented.