HAHAHA!!! Been there, buddy.

If you must think in terms of "value" two ideas that spring to mind are practicing your alpha male body language, and opening more dudes,; just look social and approachable.

Here's a bit about how I approach a solo trip to the bar/pub:

I work in bars. Always sit at the actual bar. Clam space. 2 seats. Bars have a the place where servers pick up the drinks to run. Sit one seat over from that, placing a bag on the seat right next to this "pass". This is the golden spot. From here you do timed opens on every server. Talk to the bartender. Over the course of the night, girls who like the look of you, particularly those with whom you've made eye contact, will show up at that pass to do one of a number of unnecessary things: Display their personal acquaintance with the bar staff, ask a stupid fuck'n question, "get something" like a straw, napkin, glass of water, etc.). Remember, these are girls hanging out elsewhere; they have no worldly reason to come there. With practice you know who is showing up to be opened by you. "Ah! There you are." is a powerful open. You WERE expecting her to show up.

I had to learn how to have fun in a social setting from complete zero, methodically and consciously. At first it was "mindfulness" and self guided cbt. Then 6 months ago I found PUA on Youtube. Only then was ANY progress made with females. I was never unattractive to woman, I was just socially retarded in the literal sense of the term. I was normal, then stuff happened, and I came out depressed and anxious in the extreme. I came at this from general "socializing" improvement project first, THEN pick up. I think this sets me apart from many people here. Stand, sit, move the stools around. Play. Don't give a fuck. I dance in place and watch for people to mirror it. Forcing an IOI. Observational opener: "You have 'happy feet' too!". Practice having fun. "Self Amusement". Stand taller, talk louder, make bad jokes and laugh to yourself. Huge, open body language. I wound assume a pose or posture I knew to be alpha and "correct" intellectually, then basically meditate to relax into that pose or something related. The intention of course was to train my nervous system to feel at ease with an open posture. Teach my body a new normal state.

Yeah I hear you when you mentioned not being unattractive but just socially awkward when it comes to girls. I've been battling that problem all my life but I guess I just gotta try and do what you did in order to make it to where I wanna be.

im gonna be really blunt, but youll understand why. from your post all i can see is neediness. and if thats what i see imagine what the girl sees. its like your saying i need this girl to like me and i need this validation, neediness is unattractive because in essence it makes you a worm because your trying to suck validation out of the girl. basically its screams out 'please like me, please'. an easy way to look at it is to stop focusing on the girl so much because your giving her control in the hope that she'll like you. focus on you. focus on you and your confidence and the girl is just there. the other thing to think about is theres no such thing as instant success, going out 3 times and saying i cant do this is a very defeatist attitude. since an earlier poster brought up tyler from rsd ill use him as an example he described himself as a hardcase.. meaning he was very introverted didnt go out much suffers from depression and to top it off the first girlfriend he had he caught her cheating with a local fast food manager.
after starting in the game for him to get any results took him 2 years. he went out for 6 nights a week got rejected loads of time and for the first 6 months he would talk to a girl and get so nervous he would run away. but its about building a stable foundation and there isnt a quick fix, if your approaches arent working try a new one, if your visiting the same bars or venues try new ones break out of your comfort zone, trying to do the same thing over and over again gives the same results

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Damn I hope it wont take more years till I get any results. I'm not far from 30 and I cant still be getting nothing done with girls at my age since i'm not getting any younger.

Good if i'm still 18 or 21 but those days have been over a long time ago....

I really wish I can get results ASAP and i'm doing everything in my power to make it happen

Haha! I doubt you are as far behind as Rsdtyler or myself. You get the results you want by being the person you want. Watch for changes in how you think as your measure of success. You'll find that you surprise yourself by saying and doing things that you wouldn't have done the month before, and doing them instinctually. And basically every thing grows out of opening. Even if you have no game, and you don't have my hang ups, just opening lots of drunk girls and not worrying about where it will go should get you laid.

haha let's hope it works out that way. make it sound so easy too.... lol

It's about practice, experimentation, seeing what works.

It's a long slough - if you're looking for quick answers, you won't find them.


Even if you get good you'll still get plenty of flakes.

ugh.... that's so unfortunate....

^^^^^dude, did you at least get to boink her a few times while she was till your "Gf?"

I never said she was my girlfriend.... lol

Anyway nah I never got to smash her since our schedules always conflicted so I never even really had much time to attempt to seduce her in order to do it