But that's the point I've just made, isn't it Hunter. If she passes the fuckable or not test then there are more important factors than whether she's only just fuckable or massively fuckable.

You're right in the sense that inexperienced guys should fuck anything that moves when they start out, just to get the experience and to calm their nerves about approaching.

I was just saying I find it harder to cum and get hard when I'm fucking my backup girls on the side than when I'm with my main GF because I don't find them as physically attractive. I enjoy sex more the hotter the girl, even if it's standard vanilla missionary.

The Male Physical Attractiveness Scale that a woman uses every day, day in and day out!

"Does thinking about him make my pussy wet?"

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I haven't said anything about inexperienced guys. The point, which was in response to the original question about the male physical attractiveness scale and its importance, was this:

at first meeting, people (male or female), don't instantly rate the other person as a number. At first sight, you don't think "8". Instead, at first sight you almost subconsciously think "interested" or "not interested". So physical attractiveness is only important in so much as it will get you into the "interested" or "not interested" responses.

As soon as you're in there, it becomes a lot more about "game" (ie; everything other than the superficial looks/money stuff which attracts people) than your looks. If you fall within her "interested" response and you've got decent "game"/a decent personality, then you'll get laid whether you're a 6 or a 10.


As for the last bit, that's your prerogative. Personally, I'd much rather be sleeping with a "7" who is fun in bed than a "10" who lays on her back and doesn't move. Not even a slightly tricky decision.

I don't know where you meet these 10's who just "lie there". Perhaps I've been lucky in this regard. The only girls who did that to me were long term girlfriends from years and years ago before I knew how to fuck after the excitement of the relationship had faded.

Agree with everything else you said now that you've explained it a bit better. The only thing I'd say is a common problem I seem to have which is getting to that "It's on!" point with a girl who is really into you then spotting an even hotter girl and chatting her up too. So I do rate sone girls above others in terms of looks, even when I try not to.

7000 makes an interesting point but wouldn't it be correct to say that "interested" and "not interested" fall into the 1-10 ratings scale? 1-5 being "not interested" and 6-10 being "interested." Raising your rating essentially equates to an increased chance of women all around you being "interested." This was my general understanding of it at least.

It would be worth noting that we all have different preferences too. It depends mostly on where you are in your life and what you want at that particular moment(Being that night, week, month or wanted for a year). When you go out and you feel the need to be in a relationship you're going to be more attracted to a woman that exhibits relationship qualities. Put her and a SHB side by side and you're more likely to choose the woman you would pursue a relationship with instead of the SHB even if that woman is only a 6 on the general scale and you are aware of this.

It very much comes down to what the person has to offer you at that particular moment and whether or not that is what you want there and then. I believe when we see sexy as opposed to beautiful women we see what it entails: Sex. So we're more inclined to seek out a ONS or fuck buddy status/trophy girlfriend with SHBs yet those deemed as "beautiful" are generally seen to be perfect for being in a relationship, more tied down and together.

Summing this up -- I got a bit carried away here -- I think your best chance of getting a woman hooked and interested in you isn't mainly down to your rating but down to how you portray yourself to these women. In clubs it's a given people are DTF. Not all women are there for sex but the majority of them would be up for something happening and want it to happen. On the flip side if you go to a coffee shop, book store, sit in a park or do day to day activities these kind of women are most likely looking commitment. However, despite this, it is generally perceived that the hotter you are -- and this goes for both men and women -- the more chances someone simply wants to fuck you, not date you. The more average you are the more someone will actually want to date you. So, decide on what you want: Do you want to date this woman or multiple women? Or do you want to have ONS after ONS and enjoy yourself? If the latter pump up your rating, display traits of sexual prowess and visit places where these women would be(night clubs).

Lots of mental masturbation going on here.

Let's all cum on each others brains.

It's called male bonding

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Yes, that's correct of course, I said as much above - but the point I was trying to make really is that it doesn't matter whether you're a 6 or a 10. As long as you are good enough looking to fall into that initial "interested" category, then you've got a chance.

The point that hunter makes about him being attracted to one girl and then finding another more attractive is worth bearing in mind and switching. If you're in a club, there is likely to be more direct competition than if you were chatting to a girl you just met in a coffee shop. But I don't think it matters too much if you "game" well - if you get her interest (by being in that "interested" category and then opening successfully), then the only way she is going to have wandering eyes for some lad better looking than you is if you're boring her.

As I said originally though, looks are basically something you can't do much about. Yes, try to get a nice haircut etc. to make you as good looking as possible, but don't go around worrying whether you're a 4, 6 or 8. Just hope you fall into that "interested" category for the girl, and then use your "game" (something which can be improved) to reel her in!

I don't know who posted it earlier, but it was a great observation. Guys generally use one scale when determining if a girl is fuckable, that is 1-10 how hot she is. But there are more scales than this that change how attractive she is and all the scales work together. For guys- How funny is he, how clean, how romantic, how attractive, and such. Displaying value requires defining the scales she uses. I found it interesting to think of it like this.

I donno guys I've seen both, I'm 24 been with around 150 chicks

(I was on the dirty for smashing half the staff at the restaurant at worked at when i was 21 GOOGLE 'jake alex pranger' first thing that pops up is me on thedirty com)

when you fuck one too many girls people hate lol I got love in comments don't worry


I've been with a lot of 10s that are not fun to F**k, some have been good but I think more often than not they aren't as fun

BUT slutty too much make 7s are my favorite 'market' they just seem to work harder, maybe I need to test a bigger population sample who knows haha

Pretty much all the women I've had a similar conversation with tend to rate men as just yes/no/maybe. I've never met a woman yet who used a 1-10 scale. Women that I've known long enough to get to know their "type" have generally liked what's probably best described as "attractive but different", i.e. you give them 99 magazine model types and yeah, they'll have a bit of a drool just as any guy will at a bunch of female models but the guy they really go for is the one who may be lower down the attractiveness scale but has some kind of difference that makes him stand out.

Maybe this is because I like a certain type of woman and they share similar views. People that have consistently came up probably wouldn't be considered 9's/10's, maybe not even 7's or 8's. One of the most common "yes"s I've come across is Josh Homme: not a looker, ginger hair, pale skin, overweight, badly dressed. Way lower down the scale but looks different enough without being ugly. I think finding that difference is far more important than prettying yourself up. Being reasonably good looking is very average so why worry about how to make yourself look more average?

Look at someone like Lee Marvin. Probably one of the least good looking men ever to appear on film and shagged his way around the world. Steve McQueen, again not good looking and probably shagged more women than all of us combined. Oliver Reed. Johnny Depp. Women go for men like that because they look different without being physically ugly.

The best "natural" I know is 54, has dredlocks, shaves every couple of weeks, rarely wears anything other than jeans and t-shirts and has never had a real job in his life. Very hot women half his age and less consistently throw themselves at him.

This is the OP, hi.

Just to remind everyone, I'm not a boy. Okay.

I don't want one night stands, nor do I even want sex before marriage. Most women have a prerogative to keep a low N-count, but for me, this is a personal choice. For men, the status symbol comes from "banging chicks." For women, it comes from having a following. Men aren't interested in an LTR with one, unless other men appear interested in one.

I guess what attracts a woman to a relationship are things like, "personality, precision haircuts, a moody attitude," that's what most guys settle for anyway (according to what I've read on here). But I don't want to settle. I guess I want a best match. Career isn't a consideration for me, but physical attractiveness is. The one guy I have sex with for the rest of my life should be at least a six, but I more want a 7 or 8 (I'm a 7 myself. I know this for certain, I've asked.). I don't want the guy to be a nine, though, because then he'd have regrets (or an IQ or 80).

So, I'm most curious as to what the male version of me looks like. That's the burning question.

Some helpful tips on here:

*Interested/not interested
*Get your foot in the door, work your way up

Can't decide a better approach:

*"I'm pretend not interested"
*"I lost my number..."