I don't like k-close routines and apparently neither
JD London. We both feel it is not natural in a conversation to use them. So to not troll his
topic179179.html, I will post my thoughts around k-close routines on here and explain what I do instead. Which is actually kind of a routine, but without saying anything.
Statistically speaking (of course it depends on girls) most of girls love shit romantic movies and they want to be the main actress. They want to live like in a romantic movie while we want to live in a porn movie (or some kind of Gangsta rap video clip).
K-close routines work on women because women are weak and we trick them by making them do something that they don't even know they want to do yet and because we take leadership by kind of forcing them, they just let us do it as by nature they are submissive and by the time they realise what's going on it is too late, so they accept their fate.
But have you ever seen a K-close routine where the girl is leading to the man to kiss him while the attraction phase? I've very hardly seen that.
Just watching this Justin Waynes video I always see that pattern he has: putting his hand behind the girl's neck and pulling her towards him to get the kiss happening faster.
I mean seriously, K-close routines are proven and work! But if you can make the girl coming to you to kiss you instead of pulling her to you or you leaning on her, you will become "that guy" for her because she will have desired you. Saying this, you can still try to do this with a routine, but you'll need to have built rapport with her first.
My theory is pretty simple: if you can make the first kiss with a girl a magic moment, then she will not forget you. You will not be the weirdo she ended up kissing without knowing why (and might regret it afterwards); and she will feel connected to you. She will not flake on you for your next date and she will actually chase you because she will want to feel that magic moment again.
The magic moment can only happen after the rapport phase (when you're in seduction phase) while k-close routine can work anywhere, even in the attraction phase.
It all depends on your goals I guess:
if you want one night stand, then go for k-close routines anytime, you only be another item on her list of guys she's been sleeping with; and that will be easier for her to get rid of you from her mind when you're done with her.
But if you want more than sex and you actually want a sort of relationship, then you need to create that special moment to kiss her.
One easy way to create a special moment
For me, I wait the time after we've been building rapport and ironically it happens when I run out of materials to say.
(if you run out of materials and you are not in Seduction phase yet or not feeling like kissing her yet, you can use this FMK game:
avoid-any-awkward-silence-with-this-1-b ... 79821.html)
You know that moment when you don't know what to say anymore and she doesn't either. Called Brain fart. It is an awkward moment that makes you feel uncomfortable and so is she! But instead of trying to think of something to say, just try the following:
(- if you were walking, stop walking)
- don't say a word and face her with your whole body
- take and hold her hands
- heavily eye contact her
- smile a little
- make her feel out of her comfort zone by getting slowly closer
- squeeze her hands
- send eye signal to her mouth for a fraction of second
- be attentive to any IOI like her looking at your lips, her leaning towards you.
/**** at that moment she will want your lips and you can kiss her; now here what I do because I'm a bastard and I love to build sexual tension (all the following happens very fast! but happens and makes a difference) ****/
- I'm close from her, she expects a kiss but I don't give her yet
- she is wondering wtf is happening, I'm in control and she knows it and she's like a puppy waiting for food.
- I place her hands around my neck to get even closer
- my forehead touches hers /* now she'll try to be a naughty puppy and steal the food from me, by trying to kiss me */
- I lean like I was going to kiss her but I don't
- she usually bites her lip at that moment
- and as soon as I feel that the tension is too much for her to handle or try to kill the moment, then I kiss her.
This has been field tested of course (this week). Not really a routine for me, but you could see it as one.
I take pleasure seeing girls frustrated and test them on how far they can go with their frustration. But that's because they have frustrated me all my teenage life, so now it is my way of having a revenge.
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