hey guys..i recently froze out some girls but i do not believe in the effectiveness of this method especially for girls who are aged 18-24 because they are socially active and wouldn't give a fuck if some PUA freezes her out..according to the PUA terms she is already living in an abundance mentality...it may work on the 8s and the 7s but the 9s and 10s they actually do not give a fuck in my experience..i recently froze out two HB 10s one of them wanted me to date her while she keeps chasing after her ex who is an ass i didn't react just said okay and then went radio silent..so far it is not working and it has been 5 days..no text no call or even a facebook status about me..i guess she didn't miss me..why would a chick who has loads of guys chasing after her give a fuck about some guy who ignores her? would she even remember? some of the advice on this forum doesn't make sense..

In my experience you really need to hook a girl hard before you freeze them out for any prolonged period. You can't just hook up with a girl, have an alright time and then go incognito. You can only do that if you've literally blown her off her feet. It has it's merits but if you use it too early you're not doing yourself any favours unless she's clearly done something or said something she shouldn't have in which case you act cool and not bothered by what she did but freeze her out so she second guesses herself and blames herself for the lack of communication.

You have to be in her mind, in her thoughts, if the freezeout should have any effect, and you can only be there if you've made a very good impression to begin with. So GamesSN is right about hooking.

i only had one date with her that last 5 hours..bounced her from many venues..but haven't talked to her for days and she is yet to initiate..should i wait more or should i re-engage? and what should i say to her since i was blatantly ignoring her??

So just to clarify, you had one date with HB10 number 1 and she said she wants to date you but at the same time will be trying to get back with her ex bf?

Why did you freeze out HB10 number 2?

i met the HB10 number 2 on facebook and she was flirting all the time gave me her number and then later hit me in the nuts with the line "i can only be friends because i am engaged to someone" i got offended because i felt she led me on and so i froze her out.the HB10 number 1 is a tricky case.she says she wants to date both i and her ex bf who is an arsehole and a guy loads of chicks are running after so i would understand why she would be massively attracted to him..i think it is very hard to compete with him..even when he treats her bad she seems to be talking about him while i haven't talked to her for a week and she is yet to mention anything about me..i assume i was just a passing cloud to her..i am tempted to text the latter(the one who wanted to date me while she kept also dating her ex)..she is yet to bite the no contact..should i re-engage? or should i just move on and entirely forget about this chick? to be honest i can't stop thinking about her!

I was under the impression that a freeze out only works after a larger degree of physical intimacy. I mess around with a similar age group 18-22. In my experience the freeze out only works if the girl gets the impression that some type of relationship exists, whether that be FWB, exclusive, or non-exclusive relationship. The other instance would be that the girl really desires a relationship. I may be wrong, or perhaps going about things the wrong way, but freezing out a girl that was a one night stand or a short term fling doesn't seem to work. The only instance it seems to work in my experience is if the girl is not socially involved and connect, which is rare in the younger age group.

-My 2 cents

I think you should have been unphased in both of these cases. You spoke to one on facebook and had one date with the other, why should they be chasing you? Did you even kiss her?

i was very physical with her and she was cool with it...

Freezing only really works if they're interested or "hooked" as said in one of the previous posts. 5 hrs for a date isn't really that long at all and certainly not enough to hook a person.

In experience, out of the 4 people I have been hooked on in the past year, only 1 was trying for it. Women don't get hooked on guys that are going after them.

No contact is for AFCs.
Just don't be avail at her beckon call.

Nuff said.

It can, but only if she's into you, and only on some girls. I've known one girl for over two years, that I do this with constantly. I contact her/she breaks down and contacts me(again, after I last ignored her). We meet up, we have a good time for a few visits. Then she starts acting like a bitch. So I ignore her for a few weeks, and she's back to being nice again. She's hot enough to make it worth it. And I genuinely like her when she's not in bitch mode.
We didn't talk at one point for almost six months.

That said, %98 of the time guys use "freeze outs" on this forum, they don't know what the fuck they're doing and it doesn't work. If you've never dated three women at once and you've had sex with fewer than 10 women, don't even consider attempting freeze outs. It requires a good grasp of personal power dynamics that can only be understood with experience.

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i tried this shit on one HB10 and she got in touch asking for a relationship but this other HB wasn't that much outgoing.this one is a party animal and she is clearly the hottest girl at every party so you can understand the kind of abundance mentality she has i clearly fucked it up..lesson learnt..now next time i will do it better.