So I've made a healthy habit of working on one thing a week (or more if I feel confident enough before the week ends) and this week I'm planning on working with a lot of kino. I know to touch on the high points and the progression steps but I have a few questions about particular concepts. So, the first thing I want to go over is increasing my versatility as far as the progression goes. I've heard a lot about the steps to go from arm/elbows and hands to waist but I've never really heard about the legs. Where do y'all start with the legs or is it usually completely off limits?

As far as my kino anxiety goes, it stems from me not really having a reason to touch her or when I think of a reason ahead of time, the wording/timing isn't exactly the same so when the moment comes I feel like its not even necessary anymore for her attention. But, of course, it is. So what are the main excuses/moves that you guys use to get your kino in?

Also, from what I understand, at a certain point you start playing kino tag. Where in the progression does that start happening? Also, how do you get that to happen more often/faster? I've had girls do it but never as frequent as touch for touch.



Thanks in advance,
Wilde.

Kino starts after comfort and rapport is built. Ignore the legs unless your sitting down side by side. You don't need permission to touch. Women want a man to touch them. Shows how alpha your are. Stop being an afc and start off small. Work your way up

Don't look where or when you touch, it has to be as if you're just a naturally touchy feely person and no big deal.

Some degree of physical contact from the opening tends to make things easier in the long run.

over complicating it.

Just hold hands. That's all the kino you need apart from penis into vagina.

If she will hold your hand, she will kiss/go home with you.

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That is flat out WRONG. What the fuck?! You don't need permission to touch. Women want a man to touch them. Where the hell did you get that from you fucking jerk? You can't just go round touching women unless you REALLY have some rapport with them and she is COMFORTABLE with you. Can't any of you morons read the basic signs women give off? Your phrase you don't need permission to touch makes you sound like a fucking, little rapist creep around women. Get a clue or you'll end up in fucking jail coming out with alpha crap like that.

If there's attraction they do. If you don't see the window and act upon it then it's wussville for you.

I believe we are all responding under the assumption that attraction is there. WIthout any degree of attraction or rapport, anything much more than a hug and the girl will attempt to move away from you. On the other hand, if the girl does not move away, moves close, or follows you, then that's a pretty good sign the likes or doesn't/mind some physical escalation.

That's why it makes sense to escalate early on. Filters the girls so you can find the ones that are up for it

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