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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:04 pm 
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It's ridiculous and pisses me off right now, yesterday I was upset and it threw my day off but now I'm just slightly annoyed

Went to the mall, went right up to a HB8.5 working a food joint. Bought something than as she was finishing the order I go 'Let me have your number'. So she asks 'Really?' giggling a little bit and I go yes and she than gives me her digits

Well I wait till the next day, mostly because I was tired from the weekend. I text her at like 12ish asking if 'This is Sarah'. She goes 'Yes lol'. Okay, the opener was boring but at least she responded within like 3 minutes. Than I try making a joke going it turns out lame, but I acknowledge that in a quick follow up going 'That was lame wasn't it, it's Bender1234 from the mall. Are you busy right now at school or something?'. She responds with 'hahahaha hi, and no it's fine' but after 40 minutes or so. Okay, so there was a long wait, but at least she showed interest with the laugh right? :?:

Well than I try to get to know her and ask which school, however I realize now that it was the wrong thing to ask. The goal is to build comfort through simple conversation, that stuff comes later after you setup a date. But regardless, no response. I do a freezeout for 24 hours to recoup from the loss, than give a random funny text yesterday talking about something I saw. No response.

:x :x :x :x

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Why this pisses me off? I sent less than 5 texts total, never more than 2 in a row, how could someone who previously showed interest blow someone off out of nowhere? I racked my brain and can't think of anything other than:

-I got her fired for asking for her number
-She hates texting and wants to prove it by waiting for me to call
-She suddenly out of the blue found me ugly and not worth talking to between text #2 and #3
-She's playing a very sadistic tease on me :evil: :evil: :evil:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:23 pm 
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from your text, i understand you were detecting each second eagerly, so from your typing style i assume you showed a little bit eagerness, which may ruined everything.
her laugh means nothing, girls often get satisfaction from giving numbers to random dudes, its like an ego boost for them, they like to feel desirable, and also the dumping part very like, and even more the part you chase them with calling and calling and calling, and then to FZ you, btw if you took her number in front of the mall she maybe tried to show off a little bit before her friends, that's all.
girls don't stupid, then know what turns us on, and its a fact, look what she made you to think only with hahhaha you even dont know if its real.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:43 pm 
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I would send her pictures of Shaq doing funny moves.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:46 pm 
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I have found when you sucked at texting (and you didn't come off as confident), sending funny pictures of Shaq really helps to warm the girl up.

Usually better with more rapport though.

You can insert "relevant funny topic here". But I definitely find funny pictures provide a lot more emotional spikes for the average girl.

Another is a man hugging a toilet. I'll see if I can find it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:51 pm 
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Man, you just turned into a little cockered-spaniel once you got that phone number didn't you? lol Don't get so excited next time dude. It's just a phone number... Not a marriage proposal. No reason to piss yourself then get angry at her. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:53 pm 
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I didn't do anything wrong, this is basic text game I was following. I'm definitely not acting like a 'little cocker spaniel puppy', I learned up before I pulled any move. Don't get me wrong I could have done better and there's room for improvement but my lackthereof doesn't justify being dropped just like that, and I know it's definitely not a typical response hence why I think she's just stuckup and enjoys dragging guys along like the first replier said, not just that my game sucks. I've messaged girls stupid stuff in the past and I've at least gotten a reply or a 'Wtf??"

If I was an AFC my first text would have been "Wanna be my GF??? Can we have dinner Friday???"

I'm annoyed, not infuriated. I'm actually still happy, she was the first girl I successfully approached (Actually the only one)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:57 pm 
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'That was lame wasn't it

That's a very weak frame.

I recommend hearty portions of Shaqpiccing (ShaqPiccing, Shaq-Piccing?)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:58 pm 
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I didn't do anything wrong

So don't ask for advice.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:07 pm 
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I'm asking for analysis and advice on what I could possibly say/do for this type of chick

I might use the Shaq move in a few days but she's not gonna be a high priority for me anymore


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:28 am 
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I'm asking for analysis and advice on what I could possibly say/do for this type of chick

I might use the Shaq move in a few days but she's not gonna be a high priority for me anymore

And you got that analysis and advice... You became too eager once you got the girls phone number and scared her off. Most girls are going to get creeped out when you do that.

You screwed up. It's gonna happen more and more. Then you're gonna post it on here when it does and assholes like myself are going to tell you the answers you don't want to hear. Eventually you'll "get it" but you've just gotta hang in there and keep changing yourself.

Go out and meet more girls and maybe, just MAYBE, you can come back to this chick in a few months.


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------- FIRST HALF OH YEEEEH -------
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Went to the mall, went right up to a HB8.5 working a food joint. Bought something than as she was finishing the order I go 'Let me have your number'. So she asks 'Really?' giggling a little bit and I go yes and she than gives me her digits
Bossed that bit. Nothing bad about this.
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Well I wait till the next day
Why? Should have text her as soon as she gave it to you. You should have continued the frame you set when you asked for the number. Something like "Now I'm off to have fun in the sun. Join me sometime x"
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Than I try making a joke going it turns out lame, but I acknowledge that in a quick follow up going 'That was lame wasn't it, it's Bender1234 from the mall. Are you busy right now at school or something?'
Apologizing for the joke = Beta, who cares if she think's it's lame. If she points out that it's lame then either ignore it or say something like "Yup, I can be like that"

Asking if she's busy = Beta, who cares if she is busy. First of all, she's a girl. She could be clinging on to a cliff for dear life as her dad (Liam Neeson) beats the shit out of some terrorists and STILL find time to text. Asking if a girl is busy is always stupid. A girl will only ever not respond to a text because A) She wants to "look" busy and keep you interested B) You're boring her. Either way Analyzing response times is pointless. Use texting for logistics EVEN IF it seems to early. I.E.

You: Hey it's <your name> from the mall the other day. <some sort of connection building funny text thing here>

Her: <Either she validates your joke or negs you, either way. It doesn't matter>

You: blahblahblah, I'm going <PLACE> on <DAY>. Join me. I'm much more fun then <PLACE OF WORK>
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She responds with 'hahahaha hi, and no it's fine' but after 40 minutes or so. Okay, so there was a long wait, but at least she showed interest with the laugh right? :?:
Nope. That's not interest mate. That's "text filler" as she's started to feel there isn't much of a connection or anything to talk to you about and thus puts "hahahaha" it means nothing. It's the equivalent of LOL and means nothing interest wise. You can gauge a girls interest when she either:

A) Starts telling you stuff about her day/her life/something without you asking. I normally avoid questions when I text and mostly use it for logistics or to keep in contact then push her away at the last minute.

B) She responds to something YOU'VE DONE with less text investment. A girl who is interested will want you to know she's pissed off.
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Well than I try to get to know her and ask which school, however I realize now that it was the wrong thing to ask. The goal is to build comfort through simple conversation, that stuff comes later after you setup a date. But regardless, no response. I do a freezeout for 24 hours to recoup from the loss, than give a random funny text yesterday talking about something I saw. No response.
Okay, before you start texting or anything really. Set your goal. This is what you did initially.

Goal = Get her Number.
Action = Ask for it.
Result = You got it.

Your next goal should have been set from the interaction at the mall. You were immediate, you were alpha. In the texts you turned beta. Why did you need to build comfort before setting a date? you didn't before getting the number. Build comfort IN PERSON. Should have gone instant date push in this case.
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Why this pisses me off? I sent less than 5 texts total, never more than 2 in a row, how could someone who previously showed interest blow someone off out of nowhere? I racked my brain and can't think of anything other than:
Because YOU did something wrong. It is only ever the mans fault. You think you're the only guy texting her or asking for her numbers. She works at a fucking supermarket. Every other teenager/young adult working at that store is a horny little muthafucka who is also trying to fuck her. I've worked at a supermarket before. it's a shit job and everyone who works there below the age of 25 and isn't a worker drone goes out at the weekend and fucks.
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-I got her fired for asking for her number
Ahahaha, no. I used to work on a deli at a supermarket. A girl (customer) asked for my number. I exchanged. My supervisor was like "fair play. nice customer service skills" told my manager who found it hilarious. Most supermarket managers find it just as horrible to work there as the employees and purely suck up to head office to get increases in pay packets. She didn't get fired or in trouble from this.
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-She hates texting and wants to prove it by waiting for me to call
Nope, no girl will sit around waiting for a guy to call especially with such low investment. A girl will ONLY EVER wait for a guy to call her when he's been fucking her on a regular basis and has stated that he'll call her.
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-She suddenly out of the blue found me ugly and not worth talking to between text #2 and #3
No. Between Text #2 and #3 her interest in you lowered due to your text game. You changed frame from when you alphaed it at the mall. You went from a frame of "You're a woman, I find you attractive. I want your number" to "Your a woman. I have to impress you before you'll see me" sort of frame which she's seen HUNDREDS of times before. Your initial "get her number" attempt impressed her because you didn't AIM to impress her. Your texts did, she saw it and thus lost interest.
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-She's playing a very sadistic tease on me
Nope. If she was playing tease on you she'd text you willy nilly then take it away. Girls that tease you also have a level of interest in you. You can flip this around on them which is always fun.

------- SECOND HALF U MUTHA -------
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I didn't do anything wrong...gotten a reply or a 'Wtf??"
Rule 1 of PUA: If something goes wrong. It is YOUR fault. Not hers or anyone elses. YOURS the route towards becoming a master of women is to accept your faults, learn from them and evolve. This separates the betas from the alphas.

Alphas take responsibility for their actions.

Betas blame others and bitch like little pussies. < What you're doing right now.
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If I was an AFC my first text would have been "Wanna be my GF??? Can we have dinner Friday???"
That's not beta. It's mental weirdness mixed with alphaness. At least from this sort of text you'd find out if she's interested or not. Obviously the first half is weird as fuck and shouldn't ever EVER EVER be said to a girl. The second half would work pretty well with some tweaking.

"Wanne be my GF??? Can we have dinner Friday???" -> "Lets go for dinner Friday, I'll buy mains, you choose Desserts"
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I'm annoyed, not infuriated. I'm actually still happy, she was the first girl I successfully approached (Actually the only one)
Yup, now the alpha thing is to not let her reaction effect you. Go out again, do the same but LEARN from your mistakes with the past girl. In fact the more you get girls like her, the more you'll learn and sooner or later a girl point blank rejecting you to your face will mean fuckall. It's a glorious day when you truly stop giving a shit.

I repeat. Anything that fails for you game wise is your fault. Accept this and learn from your mistakes. The only way it is ever EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER not your fault is if something medical happens. Otherwise blame yourself for any mistakes. This will improve you as a person, a male and a PUA. Avoiding blame is what the rest of the world does. Fat people blame food companies, people with no jobs blame the job specs, people at uni blame the uni if they do badly. no. Your failures are YOUR FAULT.

Extra Note: Don't come here, ask for advice and then shoot down individuals when they give it. If you "didn't do anything wrong" you wouldn't need to be here as you'd be fucking her.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:31 pm 
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Why this pisses me off? I sent less than 5 texts total, never more than 2 in a row, how could someone who previously showed interest blow someone off out of nowhere?
If you want to continue picking up chicks you better get this in your mind. Unless you have made some kind of a commitment to each other, either by getting engaged, or agreeing that you are a monogamous couple, she doesn't owe you anything. You will find very sweet girls that don't respond, blow you off at the last minute, give you fake numbers etc. It just happens. Just let it roll off of you. You need to look at your actions, determine what you did wrong and if you did anything wrong (in this instance the text game wasn't the best), improve and go get other numbers. Sometimes this will happen even if you play the game optimally.

Also, understand that when you go out and get very quick number closes like this, it's going to be a crap shoot on how well the girl responds. She doesn't have alot invested in you, and girls will give their numbers to guys they aren't interested in. It just happens. Enjoy the hunt for the number and the game. Don't get too stressed out, especially at first, when something doesn't go right.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:36 pm 
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Damn good post bitmixit.

Read it a few times Bender. That's really the mindset you have to instill in yourself.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:40 pm 
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Thanks for the breakdown, makes more sense now. You're right though I shouldn't be letting it get to me too much dahhh


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:29 pm 
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Okay so guys if I see her again (Because I'm not just gonna stop buying food at the place just because of this) should I try to keep being flirty like nothing happened or show disappointment or what


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