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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:45 pm 
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In a trainstation.

Me: Hi! I know this sounds weird but I think you look nice.<touch her on her arm>

She: <Smile>

Me: You seem relaxed.

She: That's sooooo sweet of you but I really have to buy something to eat now and then go home, sleep.

Me: That's not sweet at all .... yet.

She: I really have to go.

Me: I have a flat.

She smiles while leaving.

The LJBF-vibe is strong in this one. Or am I overanalyzing the "that's so sweet of you"?

I am saying "I know this sounds weird" because most women are scared and overwhelmed by males approaching them so I want to skip that(Like a ftc ie. Hi, my friends are waiting over there...) but at the same time state what's on. On the flipside, some women perceive it as weakness(niceness) like I couldn't fight off the yeti that could be attacking her every minute if I say "I know this sounds weird but I think you look nice".

What's your take on that?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:11 pm 
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I think your phrase "I know this sounds weird but I think you look nice" sound weird, since there is nothing weird about saying "I think you look nice" at all. IMO I think you should cut the "weird" part. Just say "hey, you look nice!".

Anyway, everything in the dialogue gives the vibe that you want something from the girl, that you are trying to get her, and she feels it. But still, she thinks your first comment was nice (or sweet), but that you are a little bit too obvious in your approach. Especially "I have a flat". Never say that again to anyone. That is why she tells you the truth "that's so sweet of you", but wants to cut the conversation. She feels uncomfortable and doesn't want to be impolite (which is nice of her). I would react in the exact same way if a girl said that to me.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:20 pm 
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I think your phrase "I know this sounds weird but I think you look nice" sound weird, since there is nothing weird about saying "I think you look nice" at all. IMO I think you should cut the "weird" part. Just say "hey, you look nice!".

Anyway, everything in the dialogue gives the vibe that you want something from the girl, that you are trying to get her, and she feels it. But still, she thinks your first comment was nice (or sweet), but that you are a little bit too obvious in your approach. Especially "I have a flat". Never say that again to anyone. That is why she tells you the truth "that's so sweet of you", but wants to cut the conversation. She feels uncomfortable and doesn't want to be impolite (which is nice of her). I would react in the exact same way if a girl said that to me.
I don't understand the "You show that you want something from her" part. Do you go up to girls trying to pretend that you don't want something ie sex with/from them?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:55 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:31 pm 
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You're shoving your dick in her face from the start. Can't you see this at all?

I'm seriously beginning to think you suffer from psychopathy. http://crime.about.com/od/serial/a/psychopaths.htm

Specifically:
Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations(I can only assume from what you've posted).
General poverty in major affective reactions.
Specific loss of insight.
Unresponsiveness in general.
Poor judgement and failure to learn from experience.

I don't know you but from what I read you're very stubborn, simply refuse to see wrongs in your actions/approaches and believe you're right in everything you do. Your emotions, at least in interactions and rejection to women, seem shallow at best.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:02 pm 
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You're shoving your dick in her face from the start. Can't you see this at all?
I don't see that. At all. But if I do, I see nothing wrong with it and I am not kidding or provocing with that statement.

Please elaborate why you think so.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:16 pm 
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people in general pick up on imagery when hearing words. women are not different.

The reason to write things down before or after is to see what happened. since you did not say that imagine someone saying that to you and being genuine. the way that could work is being direct enough to say this might sound weird but your hot and its making my balls itch

of course dont say something like that. but its about the expression behind it. words actuall cause reactions in people if you look at what you think of saying and it even in the slightest bit sounds wierd then dont use it


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Your verbal escalation was too much my friend. You also didn't have to touch her.

Just tell her "I noticed you, and had to tell you that you look really nice and I had to come say "Hi".

After that... SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. When she says "hi" back, continue by having a normal conversation, (don't forget to tease, challenge and qualify her) maintain eye contact, allow her talk a lot... then when she's investing... tell her you want to see her again. Grab her number and set up a day 2 the day after.

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Your verbal escalation was too much my friend. You also didn't have to touch her.

Just tell her "I noticed you, and had to tell you that you look really nice and I had to come say "Hi".

After that... SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. When she says "hi" back, continue by having a normal conversation, (don't forget to tease, challenge and qualify her) maintain eye contact, allow her talk a lot... then when she's investing... tell her you want to see her again. Grab her number and set up a day 2 the day after.
All I hear is ESCALATE ESCALATE ESCALATE from other people. Why should you be right by saying that my escalation was too much?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:43 pm 
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Your verbal escalation was too much my friend. You also didn't have to touch her.

Just tell her "I noticed you, and had to tell you that you look really nice and I had to come say "Hi".

After that... SLOW THE FUCK DOWN. When she says "hi" back, continue by having a normal conversation, (don't forget to tease, challenge and qualify her) maintain eye contact, allow her talk a lot... then when she's investing... tell her you want to see her again. Grab her number and set up a day 2 the day after.
All I hear is ESCALATE ESCALATE ESCALATE from other people. Why should you be right by saying that my escalation was too much?
Did you get the ride? Nope. So how could you possibly be right?

Anyway, every one of your threads are self-absorbed and you flat out refuse to take any criticism. You come here asking questions without listening to the answers then do your own thing anyway and backlash at people for giving advice asking them "Why should what you say work and mine not?" as if to say you're right when the evidence suggests otherwise...

As I said, you're exhibiting classic signs of psychopathy. That's not to say you're a crazed axe murderer or anything of the like but it does say you lack some normal emotions and basic interpretations of the world and social workings.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:03 pm 
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GamesSN, you literally give the worst advice I have ever seen.


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Anyway, every one of your threads are self-absorbed and you flat out refuse to take any criticism. You come here asking questions without listening to the answers then do your own thing anyway and backlash at people for giving advice asking them "Why should what you say work and mine not?" as if to say you're right when the evidence suggests otherwise...
This all the way. This!

To the OP: Listen to what people are saying. You come here looking for answers but it seems and feels by your posts that any other response other than "You did a good job dude...she was just a weirdo" is incorrect to you or we must be wrong. Here's a break down of your interaction. To be honest, even reading it made me cringe, weirded out and awkward.
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Me: Hi! I know this sounds weird but I think you look nice.<touch her on her arm>
It now sounds weird because you stated it's weird. Why is it weird to say she looks nice. Its not, you think it is. Now she does too. Something like "Hey I don't normally do this but i just had to say. You look nice and I really like your <insert some random piece of crap she's wearing"
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She: <Smile>
She found it creepy.
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Me: You seem relaxed.
She's not and you're stating that she is thus analyzing her. Creepy.
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She: That's sooooo sweet of you but I really have to buy something to eat now and then go home, sleep.
In girl/logical language: I have to go do this thing that gets me away from you oh and then I have to do this thing that gets me physically away from you to a point where you should know I'm really not interested.

What she probably really did: Left, rang a girl/friend of hers, met up with her, told her about the "creepy guy at the train station" then probably jumped on some alphas cock.
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Me: That's not sweet at all .... yet.
Creepy.
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She: I really have to go.
Girl Language: I'm going to state again that I really have to go so you'll get the message.
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Me: I have a flat.
CREEPY AND WEIRD.
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She smiles while leaving.
heh, seems like a nice girl. Most girls I know would have torn you apart especially after the "I have a flat" comment.
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The LJBF-vibe is strong in this one. Or am I overanalyzing the "that's so sweet of you"?
She's not LJBF you. She's "I don't even want to talk to you".

I applaud you for your persistence but you don't seem to learn from your mistakes. You would rather try to seem faults in what they did to protect yourself. You seriously need to sit down, have a think about yourself as a person and fix those faults. You essentially need to expose yourself to yourself because currently you're going out, you're sarging but getting no results because the problem is YOU.

Acknowledging your own faults and fixing them is what real men do. Ignoring them and blaming others is what fakes do.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:29 pm 
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Anyway, every one of your threads are self-absorbed and you flat out refuse to take any criticism. You come here asking questions without listening to the answers then do your own thing anyway and backlash at people for giving advice asking them "Why should what you say work and mine not?" as if to say you're right when the evidence suggests otherwise...
This all the way. This!
Jeez, suck his cock already.
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you don't seem to learn from your mistakes
With you and GamesSN as self-proclaimed teachers, this is no surprise at all.


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Anyway, every one of your threads are self-absorbed and you flat out refuse to take any criticism. You come here asking questions without listening to the answers then do your own thing anyway and backlash at people for giving advice asking them "Why should what you say work and mine not?" as if to say you're right when the evidence suggests otherwise...
This all the way. This!

To the OP: Listen to what people are saying. You come here looking for answers but it seems and feels by your posts that any other response other than "You did a good job dude...she was just a weirdo" is incorrect to you or we must be wrong. Here's a break down of your interaction. To be honest, even reading it made me cringe, weirded out and awkward.
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Me: Hi! I know this sounds weird but I think you look nice.<touch her on her arm>
It now sounds weird because you stated it's weird. Why is it weird to say she looks nice. Its not, you think it is. Now she does too. Something like "Hey I don't normally do this but i just had to say. You look nice and I really like your <insert some random piece of crap she's wearing"
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She: <Smile>
She found it creepy.
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Me: You seem relaxed.
She's not and you're stating that she is thus analyzing her. Creepy.
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She: That's sooooo sweet of you but I really have to buy something to eat now and then go home, sleep.
In girl/logical language: I have to go do this thing that gets me away from you oh and then I have to do this thing that gets me physically away from you to a point where you should know I'm really not interested.

What she probably really did: Left, rang a girl/friend of hers, met up with her, told her about the "creepy guy at the train station" then probably jumped on some alphas cock.
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Me: That's not sweet at all .... yet.
Creepy.
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She: I really have to go.
Girl Language: I'm going to state again that I really have to go so you'll get the message.
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Me: I have a flat.
CREEPY AND WEIRD.
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She smiles while leaving.
heh, seems like a nice girl. Most girls I know would have torn you apart especially after the "I have a flat" comment.
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The LJBF-vibe is strong in this one. Or am I overanalyzing the "that's so sweet of you"?
She's not LJBF you. She's "I don't even want to talk to you".

I applaud you for your persistence but you don't seem to learn from your mistakes. You would rather try to seem faults in what they did to protect yourself. You seriously need to sit down, have a think about yourself as a person and fix those faults. You essentially need to expose yourself to yourself because currently you're going out, you're sarging but getting no results because the problem is YOU.

Acknowledging your own faults and fixing them is what real men do. Ignoring them and blaming others is what fakes do.
Heh, think you mixed up those last few quotes.


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Jeez, suck his cock already.
*sigh* Your replies are always so predictable. Defensive and immature. Grow up mate.
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With you and GamesSN as self-proclaimed teachers, this is no surprise at all.
That sentence literally makes no sense with what you're quoting but...that doesn't surprise me. Anyway just to inform you that nobodies game is perfect. Which every successful PUA will tell you. I have my faults and recognise them. I overthink things and have trust issues. Both of these effect my game on a daily basis.

However I recognise my faults and aim to work with myself to get through them. Its working, I'm getting laid on a regular basis/getting numbers. Have I improved? Yes I have, Could I do better? Always.

I do warn you that if you continue to reply in such a manner to any criticism of your methods then you will simply be ignored by people on this forum. We're trying to help you.


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