So I met this girl when I was in a LTR. I split from my gf. This girl and her are kind of friends but she initially told me it wouldn't seem right for us to get to know each other but we still talk. She tells me she's not interested in anything except talking yet I invited her to a party I'll be having in the upcoming weeks and stuff. she'll most likely come.

What do I make of this? She doesn't initiate convos but she'll talk and engage when I message her but often falls asleep texting me at night. Then I must re-engage later. I can't figure this girl out. If she isn't interested why does she talk and why would she ponder the thought of coming to that party? Not sure how to play this. She ended up falling asleep on me last convo I haven't initiated since. It's weird since I know she creeps my stuff (FB, Snapchat, etc.)

Any tips guys?

She wants your dick.

Just because a chick falls asleep means shit. For all you know her sleeping patterns are consistent. Wakes up at 6am and sleeps at 10pm on the dot. Just because she's texting someone in bed isn't going to make her stay up as she waits those five minutes to get a reply.

She just wants your dick, bro. She's ashamed of it because she feels guilty and you know why? You were in an LTR with her friend. It's up to you to break down that barrier and be forward with her(In actions, not through text or messaging). She's ashamed so she won't make the first move. She wants you to give her an excuse for the first move so she can put it at the back of her head and say "It wasn't my fault, I didn't mean to go behind my friends back it just happened."

You really think so? She's said twice she's only into talking saying how she isn't interested. But I always thought if a chick wasn't into you, she wouldn't flirt (up and down, sometimes a lot sometimes not at all), reply to you, send you snapchats, etc. Like it makes no sense. Plus if she's open to that party I'm planning I can't really figure her out. She was saying that she wasn't trying to give me any trouble when she asked about girls I was into. She pretty much knows I'm interested it's kind of obvious. I can't decide whether or not to message her.

One word: Shame.

She won't admit she's into you because of her shame. You were fucking her friend dude... She shouldn't be talking to you right now even if you message her but she is because she likes you and she's ashamed of it but willing to be coerced into fucking you.

That's actually a side I never even considered. Her and my ex aren't even that close. But they have the potential to be I mean they hang out together every now and then but just to go clubbing. Which makes sense. I agree she could feel shameful/guilty about talking to me but she seems like the overly nice girl type who doesn't like hurting guys. I just figure if she's not into it she'll ignore me completely, she hasn't flaked on me yet and seems to be interested when I go out with other girls and do "high value" things. Yet she never mentions other guys, my ex, or anything that would make me think negatively of her. That's where my confusion comes from, her saying she isn't interested vs. actually talking to her and seeing IOI's.

I've never had trouble with an HB like this before. Especially one that knows I'm into her.

Read over your messages, specifically the part where she stalks your facebook, instagram and all that shit. Chicks don't do that if they're not interested, neither do guys.

If you really want to test the waters then go NC on her ass for a few days. She'll message you with something stupid and make up an excuse but honestly, there's no need for it. She's into you.

Yeah I guess that's true. She never initiates conversation, I've gone days without texting her and she just doesn't. She'll send a snapchat or something but that's not a text message. I'd call her or something I'm just out of the country. I could text her first but who knows. She clearly doesn't text first so.. The one thing is she'll engage in games like 2 truths 1 lie or somethin, I can try 20 questions or something, but I hate it when I have constantly message a chick who will ignore my last text lol

Any form of communication is a means to get your attention and have you contact them. So yes, her sending you a picture on snapchat is her initiating a conversation.

Alright man, so I should shoot her a text? She studies all the time. I'll open with something clever. She does most of the time engage so I'll just do it.

I'll keep you posted. Most of the time she's quick to reply to me unless she's legitimately busy.

On a side note, a good girl friend of mine wants to introduce me to a few of her roommates. They are pretty attractive, should I use them to my advantage to try to make this girl jealous? She's already made it clear by telling me she doesn't care if I approach other girls and stuff when I'm out. Obviously she has no say but I'm still a bit rusty with things like that, being out of a LTR for only just about 2 months.

No, other women are your business. You'll just give her the reason she's looking for to try lose interest in you if she sees you with other girls. Game the other women but not to get her attention.

Also, just do what you normally would do and don't read too into this shit. Meet up with her at the party, have a few drinks and run your game on her. When you isolate her just go in for the k-close then f-close if you can get away with it.

Okay I think I can pull it off is she decides to come when it's all planned.

I'll also keep those girls out of her knowledge then. I didn't know talking about them would be bad in the situation I'm in cause she knows I get approached a lot. I'll continue to talk and game her and see what I can do.

So I took your advice we ended up playing 21 questions and it was great. She seemed really into it she even negged me a few times as I did to her and it was flirty in spurts. Then she dropped her phone in the sink... So she went and FB messaged me right away we continued a bit on Facebook just casual chit chat. I offered her one of my burner phones if hers was damaged since I'll never use those phones but I figure I might have made a bad move with that I didn't really think about it, I told her to let me know if hers didn't survive. Anyways the convo ended and it was a simple hopefully we'll talk soon with her saying have a good night and "haha ya!" So I guess you're right about her potentially being interested, I just can't tell for some reason. I feel in the friendzone since she already told me she's not interested twice yet acts like this. Plus she never turned down spending time with me when I negged her about it in a way. Not sure whether to wait out her to message me or if I should at this point?

If you think you're in the friendzone(I don't think you are just yet...) you just have to flat out tell her you're not interested. Don't be serious when you say it but be c/f about it "Haha, I have enough friends right now. " then change subject or neg her. Unconsciously she's not closed the door on you as a potential suitor when you refuse to "Just be friends." Be careful, 'cause as soon as you accept it even as a token offering she is going to friendzone you.

If you want to go down the route of behavioural science you could condition her. Operant Conditioning: Basically you punish her for negative behaviours(Friendship) and reward her for positive behaviours(Stops talking about being friends/flirts with you). This should eliminate any conversation about being friends over time.

But honestly, just be normal and wait to see her at your party. Flirt with her a bit then isolate her, bring her to somewhere where no one else can see you and then kiss her.

Good plan man I'll just keep it going. I can't tell if I'm friendzoned. She doesn't quite say or talk about things friends talk about I.e. Other girls/guys etc, gossip, that shit. She does flirt though, I think I'll just keep going at it. I remember just saying I completely understand when she said she wasn't interested. I think I might have to next this one if she doesn't up the flirting/negging or come to that party...

All I will say is stop being a pussy and rolling this shit around in your head. Just go for it. You can't fuck her if you're not in the game to win her. Don't eject too early, at least try to k-close her when you meet up and be 100% sure she's not interested.

Ask yourself this: "What's the worst that happens if she turns me down?" Nothing bad will happen.