Hey all, i've been getting a number of shit-tests from girls I talk to and doing pretty well with them but I got to thinking "Hey, wouldn't it be awesome to turn the tables on them, ask THEM if THEY live up to OUR expectations? " Generally responding to shit-tests women give us, rather than giving a positive or negative answer, instead we change the subject, or say 'Why you wanna know THAT? ' or create an awkward silence we wait for them to break since women crack under pressure and do it to stop the awkwardness or we laugh and pat them on the shoulder or whatever, so I looked around here on the forum and Google for things MEN can do to shit-test women, never found anything so does anyone know things that work that stop them in their tracks and have us play role-reversal with them? Would be pretty handy to know some tricks of our own since it creates attraction by showing them we're not phased at what they say and in complete control of the conversation.

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Why ask a girl generic and boring questions like 'How are you, where you from?' when you can ask "Whats the craziest thing you've done, what was your first kiss like?"

Yes ... Real Social Dynamics calls it "Buyer/Seller dynamic" ...

The analogy is being the buyer and the girl is selling you something. This is the dynamic of what a natural would do. Basically, keep it simple and allow for pauses. Focus only on "laser eye contact".
So when the girl is qualifying her self ... you reply with short simple screening answers like .. and don't try (go into your head trying to find something impressive ...)

"Really?" ... "hmmm" ... "interesting" ... like you are considering buying a television the girl is selling to you.

To get a girl to qualify to you is done with your voice ... when you question the girl you should have a breaking rapport tonality. Tonality that drops at the end of the sentence ... the opposite is a needy homeless person asking for change ... their tonality rises and it comes out as begging.
- The purpose of Breaking rapport tonality is to imitate someone of authority like a police officer, her dad, her boss ... this tonality will make them qualify more of them selves to you. It's like a police officer questioning you on an criminal act you have committed.
So with Breaking Rapport Tonality you can do interview questions like "What do you do?" ... "How old are you?" ... "Where are you from" ... but pretend you are a police officer questioning a criminal :p.
- [SIDE NOTE]: For shorter guys they MUST have breaking rapport tonality ... tall guys don't need to do it as much because their size is already intimidating.

Another tactic to get a girl to invest more is to cut threads. Basically, interrupt the girls topic and change it to your topic. You can easily do this by asking a question and before she even answers you ask another question. Her jumping to your thread causes her to invests. This is an helpful tactic when a girl is pissed at you ... get out of her hateful pissed off attitude by changing the topic or asking a logical question continuously.
- If done right you can short circuit the girls brain jumping through your multiple threads (questions) and forgetting whey she was pissed about ...

Sincerely,

Donston

Thanks man thats some good advice, i've been hearing a lot of good things about RSD, yeah a lot of the stuff you said all points to things i've heard before like "Ask yourself, 'would she ask her boss this question?'" So basically what you're saying is to simply play a dominant role and act like you may walk away at any time right? About cut-threading it makes a lot of sense since women naturally are attracted to men who can seize complete control of those heated or uncomfortable moments, besides it's men they want, not "boys" who obey their every command lol, cheers for that

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Why ask a girl generic and boring questions like 'How are you, where you from?' when you can ask "Whats the craziest thing you've done, what was your first kiss like?"

To calibrate if the girl is horny enough for you, these are some of the shit tests I give:

1. Quick. Give me 100 bucks because I need to get that [whatever].

2. Please get that thing over there for me. Thank you.

3. I don't like your make up. It's too thick.

4. I don't like your dress. I like the one you wore yesterday. You look sexy and decent at the same time with what you wore last time.

5. Damn. My back is aching. I need a massage.

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Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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I guess I'm not really understanding Shit Tests, what is it they're supposed to do?

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"You ain't accustomed of going through customs. You ain't been nowhere, huh?"

Shit test is when a girl tests if you are legit a sex worthy male or a potential boy friend ... Girls can test you unconsciously or consciously ... but they want to know if you are legit and congruent or you demonstrated something that is fake to the girl so she is shit testing you to see if you are fake or it was just a fluke ....

The topic of your posts is not really for shit test ... what you mean is "how to get the girl to invest/chase/game you" ... I think .... unless I am wrong on what your posts is asking :p ... my bad if that is the case ^_^!

Cool, but I'm not the OP. I was just kind of confused because I thought Shit Tests were something like meeting a girl and her friends after the club and she asks you to buy them a late night dinner to see if you're just an AFC who'll do anything for her, and just dip out on you afterwards because you're a lame in their eyes now (happened to... err-- uhh... a friend of mine. yeah).

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"You ain't accustomed of going through customs. You ain't been nowhere, huh?"

Lol ... that sounds like some harsh stuff O_O ... but, no worries. I've heard worst :p ...
- But, what you just described is actually you being an "AFC". To prevent this is to have proper game.
- I want you to consider something ... you were able to bounce them out of the club and they allow you to continue to hang with them. That's actually a pretty big accomplishment. Not a lot of guys is able to bounce a girl out of the clubs. You are actually pretty close to a lay there. All you needed to do is after "night dinner" is to walk them home or whatever it takes to get to their place into her bed or yours! But, you stopped when they gave you a small resistance of "(happened to... err-- uhh... a friend of mine. yeah)" ... Just persists.
* Don't forget to look at your small accomplishments ... if you add them up they become something you should be proud of! Just learn from your mistake and ask your self "What would I do different the next time I am in this situation?"
* What you described is girls FLAKING on you. It is due to having improper game. Polish your game up so that girls won't be thinking that this guys is a creep ... but, instead ... make them think ... "I want to fuck this guy."

lol ... I am sorry if that is not the answer you are looking for ^_^ ... I may have mis interpreted your question/posts :p.

Donston is spot on. The girls actually wanted an isolation bounce so you can see their friend home or take her to your apartment. This is a common AFC mistake of failing to distinguish between a shit test and girlie moves to help guys out with the f-close.

Here's a more detailed explanation of girlie compliance tests versus isolation bounces and isolation towards the f-close: buying-her-a-drink-scientific-theories- ... 64143.html

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

general-questions/topic137931.html

While I see some l impressive tips like the one that talks about voice tonality which is true becasue what you say is no where near as important as the way you say it.

Let me share to simple tips in here:

1- Give your attention to her on and off sometimes. i.e sometimes DO intentionaly IGNORE the chick you are interested at. This indeed works best where you see a girl regularly like campus, work place or..etc..Also you can do that with your existing girlfriend / wife. You should NOT be "Too Available" coz it is NOT sexy at all.

2- If you have the classic problem (or shall I call it the Modern Age or the New Millennium Problem?!!) that is called Approach Anexiety, I have got on god news for you to relax. Your Approach to a girl is one of the best ways to test her personality. If you were nice and your approach done properly and she acts as a bitch that means she does have a "Bitch Inside" waiting to be unleashed. (unless if you were too rude in your approach or if she was not in a good mood that is something else). Later on in the Mid-Game you can test her by teasing and bantering her with some chat. See how she responds.