Transitioning to HB8 and 9s



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:38 pm 
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I've been online sarging for a few months now and have gotten pretty good with HB6 and 7s but I want to up my game to HB8 and 9s. I recently started talking to a HB9 online. Thought I wasn't doing well after a little over a week went by and she didn't respond after our initial back and forth but I sent a quick message telling her that she missed a great show at a bar nearby. Two days later, she messages me with "So... if you ever want to talk offline, XXX-XXX-XXXX" I called the next day and we talked for about 10 minutes while she was at work; she works third shift. It was a pretty good conversation.

She and I were both going out of town that weekend so I couldn't set up a date on the phone. Texted her that Sunday to see if she was back in town since I had Monday off. She said that she was back and at work again. I suggested that we meet up after she got off work and have breakfast. She hastily replied that it would be fun as long as I didn't judge her for the dark circles under her eyes and we set it up. A few hours later she texted about having an appointment at Mieniken. I said I'd just pick her up there and we were back on.

I picked her up, hugged as my standard meet-n-greet and we got in the car. She mentioned that she had gone to the gym once she got off work. We went to breakfast and I followed the Nick Sparks (The Social Man)'s philosophy of a man's role in the conversation is to allow the framework for a woman to speak. Lead the conversation but allow her to fill it.

It went pretty well and as we neared the two hour mark, I suggested we head out. She seemed a little shocked and it was clear I was keeping her on her toes. We talked on the way back to the car about how I wanted to move to Austin, She stopped and said "I don't want to be too forward but can I come?" I said we'd see as long as it wasn't for SXSW when I'd just have a ton of people over anyway.

I dropped her off at her friend's place to wait until her car was done. I had to meet up with my friend. I didn't unbuckle and she hugged me and said that it was fun and we should hang out again. I said it was and we'd see.

I left (Monday) and didn't call or text her until Wednesday. We texted a little bit Wednesday, did some future projecting about going to see a concert and following the Black Keys on tour to Europe together. Since she works third shift and this was 1-ish pm when we stopped texting, I assumed that she fell asleep. Didn't hear from her the rest of the day or the next. Called around 6 pm (Thursday), hoping to set up something for Saturday. It rang all the way through to voicemail which I didn't leave. I have not heard anything back at this point and have written her off at this point but I want to know what I did wrong or could have done better. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you kindly gents.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:44 am 
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It doesn't seem like you really did anything wrong. If it was me and I spent that amount of time with a girl, I definitely would have kissed her at some point. Really, get into the habit of kissing every girl you meet from online on the first date, even if it is brief. It increases your chances of getting laid the next time you see her tenfold, and really bridges the gap from "internet stranger" to "romantic interest".

Dealing with the true hotties is tantalizing because you want to do everything right and feel like there is no room for error. The problem is that these hot women are getting courted by every guy imaginable on their online dating site. It makes flaking even more common than usual. Again that's why it's better to go as far as you can on that first date because you never know if you'll see her again.

I had a similar experience about a month ago where I went out for drinks with an absolutely gorgeous girl. I used all the right techniques, had her laughing the entire time, and smoothly kissed her towards the end of the date. It was a good kiss, too. She even texted me immediately after the date asking me what I thought about her and calling me handsome and intelligent. I nailed it, right?

Well I never saw that girl again. She totally lost interest without any reason and after she flaked on a couple of dates I set up I just gave up on her. I know it hurts man because those are the chicks we want the most.

Overall don't beat yourself up over it, and just "focus on other women" (annoying advice, I know). Next time you're with a 9 or 10, don't be intimidated and be sure to get physical with them. You don't want to give off the beta vibe that you're in awe of their beauty and be too afraid to make a move.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:47 am 
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Really appreciate you taking the time to reply and give your opinion. And I'm not opposed to hearing that I was doing fine by someone haha.

You're right about needing to get more physical on the first date when you find them online. And I know where I should have transitioned. Hindsight is 20/20. Your story helps put it in perspective and keeps with the 60/40 principle.

Back to hunting the better fish...


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