So as i go about my day at college, i have seen and developed moderate interest in 2 different girls, however they both display similar issues; and that they are both aloof and do not seem very social with men.

Either of them usually only is social with women from what i've seen.

Shy Girl: Very vocal with females, especially her sorority sister in lecture, one day during lecture she mentions that she works at a store near where i live, so after class i approach her saying

Me: So i take it you work at ________ mall

Shy Girl: Yea i do, do you live near the ________ Area

Me: I live in (rural area outside) but its close enough i rekon

Shy Girl: Yea .... (random blabbering) *walks off*

Me: Take it easy

She seemed to be disattached from the beginning and seemed as if she had better things to do, i picked up on this and distanced myself slightly as i noticed this. My approach to this was to remain calmly cordial and be sure to say hello whenever i'd pass her

"Stuck-Up" Girl: Specific place of observation was at a party at the Sigma Phi Epsilon house, only hung out with about 3 other women while remaining distant to all the men at the party. I attempted to greet her friends and she just looked at me, looked at the ground and walk by me like she didn't want to acknowledge i was there, however as i observed the rest of the night while talking amongst my friend, she treated all the guys such as this and remained with her 3 select female friends.

I've made up my mind that i want to learn to invoke attraction into any woman that i please, i have the tools at hand i just need to learn how to use them.

Gentleman... the ones that have been through this, how do you break through both ends of the spectrum here? How would you go about it?

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Was your conversation with Stuck-up girl anything like the one you had with shy girl? That conversation was difficult because it sounds like you were just having an ordinary conversation with her and hoping that she would respond in a way that you were not building up to.

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No, like i said she was cold to EVERY dude there, my main question here how do i break through these scenarios?

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IMO, it's where you begin. Others may think differently, but here's my take.

You're not expressing what you are doing to attract them. The natural order of things is that a woman will see a guy that she wants to attract and give him visual cues letting him know that he is welcome to come over and build on that. If you walk over to her without those cues and then have a normal, everyday conversation with her...you are not building any type of attraction whatsoever. So that goes back to my main question, what are YOU doing (f everybody else) to stand out so you can escalate to the next step? At this point, it sounds like nothing at all.

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Bro, these chicks sound weak as fuck. Why would you want to attract a stuck up girl? What could she possibly do for you?

What about the shy chick? Were you actually into her?

I think you need to set some standards man. No offense, but you could probably hold out until you find more engaging females. Just because they have tits don't make em valuable.

And trying to attract any woman you please is an understandable desire, but it isn't realistic.

Some chicks will vibe more with your personality than others (and visa versa). Instead of trying to attract every girl that's slightly cute, why not approach them with the intention of screening the fuck out of them? That way, you can eliminate the ones you KNOW you aren't compatible with. Maybe a question you should ask yourself before meeting a girl is, "I wonder if she's really worth my effort? Is she easy to talk to? Fun?" Not, "I wonder if I can get her to like me, despite the fact I know nothing about her except that I could possibly get laid..."

I guess it comes down to figuring out what you really desire in women. Good luck bro!

@sugarwallz616

Are you a SigEp?

Are you sure you've labeled them the correct way round? HBshy sound stuck up and HBstuck-up sounds shy.

But following your naming convention:

To HBshy I would have said "I overheard you work at X, I'm in there quite a bit, I live at Y but I can't say I've ever seen you in there. And I always remember a cute face."

To HBstuck-up I would open the set of friends. She sounds like she would stand to the side being quiet. Work a bit of comfort into the group then open her with something like "you're very quiet over there. What's your name? Don't worry I dont bite, unless you want me to "

You said shy girl seemed disinterested... she probably was. Not every girl is going to like you even if your some "master pimp pua."

As for the "stuck up girl"... if you see a woman out and about and shes blowing off and ignoring all guys... shes not sexually available. What thats means is that shes not looking for a guy or interested in sex currently. Absolutely nothing you can do about this.

Think of it like this, if you're walking down the street and a salesmen tries to approach you but you are not interested in buying anything at all, what do you do? You ignore him. He could be the best salesmen in the world but if your mind is closed off to the possibility of buying his skills wont matter. Same with women. A women can be sexually unavailable for a multitude of reasons. The reason dont matter. Whats important is that you dont waste time on these women because NO ONE is picking her up until she decides she wants sex.

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