I would like to know any type of openers that dramatically changed your perception and view of gaming and seduction.

I am talking about that one '' Wow... What just happened'' experience. I am talking about that one thing that changed your perception of game and seduction being almost impossible to actually being possible. Maybe even openers that altogether changed your way of approaching, mindset and mentality when sarging. Or maybe even openers that totally changed your life.

Or maybe you are just of the school that opening is not important?

Share your experiences guys!

I can't really think of any.

I don't think openers have that sort of quality I guess.

I mean, I have favorite openers (canned and personal) but they don't strike me with a lightning blot of "I finally get it"!

Other aspects of seduction do that though.

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You are right. I also believe that the general perception is that opener is not as important as other aspects. Recently I have also discovered the strength and power of quick physical escalation. Although from time to time I am cut off from escalating due to a weak opener. So maybe, what I am really looking for is some sort of opener that works well with other parts of game - mainly - quick physical escalation, but other parts aswell.

What other parts are you implying?

Openers are crucial. If one doesn't open, he can't get the girl.

As for me, kiss closing and making out with random strangers have been that aha moment.

I now (since last month) realize how easy it is to kiss girls.

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How do you get on about it? What is your game plan? What changed it for you?

Gambler's video on waving hand opener and Peyton Kane's description of point to your eyes with fingers and then point to them "I'm watching you motion".

It's opening without using words. Then when go talk to them it goes much, much easier.

I also agree with Social Kenny on kiss close opener. It'll opened my mind to what's possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTuBf4BrIgE

"HI"

"Hello, you look gorgeous. what's ya name?"

Best fucking openers in the world

Never failed me

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Lol for me...it was

"Do you believe in Ghost"


I actually have the whole routine posted in the forum somewhere and how to use it.

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I just say Hi,and then the conversation is just keep going.I usually star to talk about an accessory,dress,etc of her.It doesn't matter what you say is important how you do it.Usally girls know when you have a routine and if somehow a open line work is not because is a ''WOW'' thing what you say is just because your attitude.So smile,be funny and let the conversation flow

I totally agree.... The absolute most important aspect about sarging is the attitude and the confidence. You can have the perfect opening line and go all shaking and babbling, you will most certainly get rejected. On the other hand, with enough confidence and charisma, you can say just about anything, and still get in. So instead of elaborating a perfect opener just go 1,2,3 ... charge! Remember, only practice makes you better!

Forcing eye contact and assuming they want your dick anyway. Nine times out of ten they reciprocate IOIs or approach you.

Before I used to shy at the idea of a woman who was looking my way was interested. A couple months back I said fuck it and started forcing eye contact. The difference was night and day. I probably only got one negative comment so far and even at that she may have just been shy. I've had women offer to buy me drinks, ask me to go with them for a drink, grab onto me and dance with me, straight up come up to me and tell me they're into me... It's nuts.

For me, it was direct openers.
Always stuck with indirect but direct changed my game a lot more.
Think friendly vs flirty

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All about the energy you're carrying. Anything that's congruent has changed my perception. IE "Hey I'm down." or "Hey I'm nervous"

Also just going in set - eye contact - without saying anything.

"Hey, what's your name." was a game changer for me.

i.e. It's not about what you communicate to the girl, but what you are sub-communicating to her.

"hey you're cute so I figured I'd get to know you."
"What're drawing?" to the girl with a sketch book drawing
"I thought you were cute so I figured I'd get to know you."
"I like your hair, I'm Nick"

After these leading to me getting laid I'm left thinking that DQ's are complete horseshit and you don't need them. Also that a lot of what's going on in these books are designed to over complicate shit.

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