something struggle with is number close and always feels very awkward. while working yesterday (clothes/shoe shop) got idea of perhaps better way to close a cute customer i had, what you think of instead of asking, write down number, name, smiley on piece of paper and be like u forgot something, the most important thing, and give her the paper and walk away?

this way theres no awkward moment while exchanging numbers, risk of rejection, dreadful wait for a yes or no...if she likes you she will contact you.. what you think?

The problem with that method is that she probably won't contact you. You know how you might get a little nervous before calling a woman or approaching her in person? Multiply that by 1000 and that's pretty much how it feels to be her. She's unlikely to call even if she really wants to.

I don't see what's so awkward about getting her number.

Comes off as weak. Just put your phone in her hands, on the number input screen.

Easy. Getting a number is really not difficult.

If you have problems with getting numbers i just can imagine with k-closing and f-closing...

Man, it won't work. Sure, you would look different, but it's not her task to call you, but you to call her! So just go and say "you know, I'd like to continue this conversation with you cause you are really interesting. So can you give me your number?". Quick and easy. And it's 100% not awkward (exception is if your discussion is lame, but if you both have fun it will usually work).

I'm usually a little more direct. I just tell her to give it to me. "we'll go out sometime, I'll give you a call and we'll get it figured out" [as I hand her my phone]. Or I'll just say "what's your number?"

Asking for a number just seems weak.

I've tried that. It doesn't work. The success rate is negligible to ZERO.

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It's annoying, you have to take your phone out, choose the right menu, let her type in verify. Awkward.

That's what I used to think. But today I think: that lets me stay with her longer.

I've given girls my number before and they have called me...

I always carry business cards with me. Most of the situations I've had where I've given a girl my number have been things like I'm talking to someone else, she's leaving and walks past me waving, I reach in my pocket, grab my business card and hand it to her.

Now, you can get pretty creative with this. An example would be... You can go onto vistaprint, and order some business cards that say whatever you want them to say... For example, you could put on there that you are a male escort.. Or you could do something funny...

Like...

Hey, I just met you.
And this is crazy.
But here's my number.
So call me maybe...

(Your Name)
(Your phone number)

Experiment with the shit.

I teach sales too so I'll give you an example of how that relates to picking up girls...

Say you have a potential customer right?

Now, you could give this customer your business card and hope that they call you...

Or, ask them for their phone number so you can stay on top of them.

The customer might call you... But your chances of closing a sale are much better if you can "harass" them a bit to put the pressure on them.

Having to give your number is NOT A SOLID LEAD. Don't waste your time entertaining that idea. if someone isn't comfortable giving you their number (and to girls giving out a number is even more of an after-thought than for guys; girls get asked and do it all the time), they are surely not comfortable getting her womb penetrated by you. You have to improve, and giving your number out will delay your much-needed self-improvement.

Plus, giving your number out to complete strangers? That's crazy! I don't know how girls do it lol

I worked in sales too. Once every 6 months, we printed 100 to 200 colorful brochures with +50 pages or so and mailed them. We got 1 to 3 callers for every 100 brochures inquiring about the product/service after they've gone through the features, benefits, testimonials and so on.

Once we got those calls, we traveled to the caller's area and gave a presentation. We made sales by maximizing the 7 contact rule.

Unless you're giving out brochures of yourself highlighting your features, benefits and testimonials, you're highly unlikely to have any progress with that approach. You can probably give out 1,000 calling cards each week like Joe Girard does and probably get 5 to 10 calls a week but you'll still need to put in the legwork to give out thousands of calling cards.

Now, if you simply approach 10 girls every day, eye fuck them, start a fun chit-chat, and then get their numbers, the effort you put in to f-close 1 or 2 girls out of 10 will be much lesser than printing out 100 brochures or distributing thousands of calling cards.

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