Hello all.

I am a guy who has been studying/practicing "pickup" for quite some time.I don't do it anymore though.I get laid alot more after dropping it too (like as in actually having sex,not getting laughs and phone numbers that go nowhere).There is a girl laying in my bed right now naked as I am typing this in fact.

I came here to share some hard earned knowledge that will save you alot of needless suffering.

That knowledge is the realization that pick up is a bunch of crap and it doesn't actually work.

I could say a tremendous amount about this but for the sake of making it very clear and easy to understand (unlike the PUA'S) I am going to skip the details.

Why doesn't pickup work?

It seems pretty great at first...especially for a guy with little experience with women.Get any girl.Have tons of sex.Never again have to be anything but a totally confident guy who gets laid all the time...a super hero...

Wrong.

Pickup doesn't work because it's all about creating attraction

Which is impossible.

You can't "create" attraction.It isn't what witty things you say to her...she is already attracted to you physically from the get go or she isn't.At that point just don't screw it up and you're in.If she isn't then you are not going to be able to win her over with your "game".

Think about it in reverse.Do you care how cool a girl is or what she says if she is 350lbs,ugly as hell,and the thought of kissing her makes you want to puke?I didn't think so.

It's so obvious it's astounding.

Sure,if a girl is hot and cool that is even better.But all that guys care about first and foremost is,is she hot?Her being cool only comes into play if she is already physically attractive to the guy.

Well it is the same thing for girls.Who would have thought.

PUA is a fantasy that you can control women with simple techniques and routines.Do you really think human beings are as simple as opinion openers?

Looks matter.And certain guys may be repulsive to one girl and super attractive to another and vice versa.

As far as your "game" all that is really required is the ability to converse like a normal human being,not being a complete nervous wreck,and the ability to make a move.No super hero skills necessary.

Getting girls is as simple as this in a nutshell-

Find the ones that are into you.Make a move on them.Ignore the rest.

Case closed.

Time to close all the workshops...

So did you just forget everything that you learned because you said you're not doing it anymore? lol

Get lost broski.

First of all most woman dont base their selection of men primarily on looks. This is of course what most AFC's believe, well this or money. Saying arousing attraction in a woman has to be organic is retarded.

Secondly you aren't writing this whilst laying with a beautiful woman, no one believes that. This is your first. bitter post. on these forums so I'm guessing you are in fact writing this from your parents basement after an especially vigorous session of beating off.

@TheMajikalMethod

No I didn't forget.No I don't do them anymore.I don't try to be cocky and funny,alpha,have amazing body language,DHV,do text game,do opinon openers,kino,routines,or any of that nonsense.They aren't something that just happens naturally either if that's what you are trying to suggest.It takes alot of effort to go out and be a dancing monkey for girls.I'd rather eat pussy than peanuts.

I'm curious to see if a mature discussion is even going to develop here.

@detox75

Take your brain out of the washing machine.

@Da

Saw that you deleted your comment bro .To answer your question...I'm not trolling.This will surely be amusing but I am actually trying to tell you the truth and save you time and headaches so you should listen up.And...because I don't smoke.

You've taken the time to come to a forum dedicated to pick-up and made an account specifically to comment on something you think doesn't work. How strange/sad.

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@DboTheHero

Don't see how trying to help guys realize that something they might lose years,sanity,pussy,and money from following is strange/sad.Especially when the alternative is so simple.

Keep trying though

Like your quote by the way.

I agree with you that you can't create attraction, but that doesn't mean you cannot trigger it.

@peety.tweet

That sounds like semantics to me my friend.

How does one "trigger" attraction that isn't already there?Do explain.I'll be serious if you will.

I am going to release a program.It will be called "How to trigger mens attraction for whales".Then I'm going to pay a fat woman to write a review- "I used how to trigger mens attraction for whales and I gave Brad Pitt a BJ.It was awesome.He simply could not control his attraction for me...he didn't even notice my large yellow discolored teeth"

@legitscumbag

I think we just operate from a different point of view. I believe that men can trigger attraction in women by working on themselves and being the best version of themselves that they can be. I see the whole "pickup" just as guidlines for self-development, so i think we are both right.

By the way, you could release a program "How to trigger mens attraction for whales" and it could contain only one answer: "Get in shape!"

To the OP, your need to state there's a girl in your bed reeks of defensive insecurity.

So, you finally got laid, congratulations on losing your virginity!

You just want to believe you're "special" and that girls think you're "the man" or "the one". But you're not. Nobody is. Even the biggest most attractive celebrity DHV multi-mullionaire pimps get cheated on.

Lose the ego bwoy!

Many of the pua techniques if you do some research into psychology and look up test studies show that some are very effective. Example Kino raises oxytocin(the love hormone). Thats why many women become much more clingy after sex, since sex releases so much oxytocin.

Also most psychologist also believe that males are hardwired to be attractive to the physical aspects of a women based on our brain seeking out women who are most fit to have our and birth our children. While women look more for social status as a man who can provide, protect, and care for his lady and children.(this is based off evolution psychology). Attraction from women is not solely looks.

Also good body language and knowledge of body language can help you in many, many ways. .Body language isnt just some PUA fantasy. A lot of research has been done on it because it is so influential in politics, business, and attraction. It enhances communication and women are naturally better at it, so learning and practicing body language is very important as well.


Now i don't believe every technique works or one technique is foolproof just because the human mind is to complex for our understanding right now. But they all do help

I was reminded of a legendary joke told to me by my own father. I told it before, and likely will again. I find it to be relevant to the conversation. Today, I’d like to share with you gentlemen today.

An old bull and a young bull stand on a hillside, overlooking a pasture. The young bull says to the old bull, “Hey, let’s run down and fuck one of those heifers.” The old bull replies, “Why? Let’s just walk down and fuck ‘em all.”



-Our inward power, when it obeys nature, reacts to events by accommodating itself to what it faces – to what is possible. It needs no specific material. It pursues its own aims as circumstances allow; it turns obstacles into fuel. As a fire overwhelms what would have quenched a lamp. What’s thrown on top of the conflagration is absorbed, consumed by it – and makes it burn still higher.

@legitscumbag

So you pondered a question after the euphoric banging of whatever random fuck slut, and came to 'your own' epiphany - your own supernatural or divine reality, a moment of great revelation!

Good for YOU!

The greatest and final fact!!! This one is the best… check this out: YOU’RE GOING TO BE FUCKING DEAD SOONER THAN YOU THINK ANYWAY SO WHO IS GOING TO CARE WHAT HAPPENS!!!??? WHO GIVES A FUCKING RATS ASS. This part is the most amazing of all. Seriously how easy is this.

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@peety.tweet

Of course we do...that's why I'm here.

If by "working on yourself" you mean things like getting muscles,8% body fat,a great tan,facial hair,white teeth,edgy style,tattoo's and a big dick then yea.That will "trigger" more attraction in girls in the sense that a larger amount will be open to sleeping with you and you can get the hotter ones.It isn't a "technique" though and it's only because now you are hotter not the act of working on yourself in and of itself.Same as if a ugly girl gets a nice tan,hits the gym,gets braces and teeth whitening,learns how to do her make up,gets her hair straightened,and dresses in a sexy outfit.

Getting laid isn't about self development it's about being hot and hitting on girls aggressively.

And yea that would be good for the whales.Only question is why aren't we sending the same program to the PUA's?

@Hunter_Foxe

Thanks for that profound advice bro.Maybe if I try hard enough I can become a egoless and totally secure man like yourself.

Seriously are you even a real person?It's not natural to be totally egoless and secure.Sorry to burst your small bubble.

Funny thing is you have an ego about not having a ego.How's that for ironic?

Although I do like to be a dick and ego trip sometimes because it's fun,I think girls hook up with me because they think I'm hot,they are down to fuck,and I make a move on them.Not because I am special.In fact my very point was that you don't need to be special to get laid.Re read original post.

@Madetrue11

Uhhh dude you are not going to be "kinoing" her if she finds you repulsive.Sorry to tell you.It doesn't matter how well you can drive the car if you can't unlock the door.Guys are stupid and think that they can overpower a women with sexual desire.Well that only happens when she allows you to overpower her.Girls give you the chance to turn them on,and then you think it's because you "overpowered her" with your seduction.Wrong.You can't do something to a girl that she doesn't already want to do.

I figured it was only a matter of time before someone brought up evolutionary psychology.

Sure,women are attracted to status too.Although you don't need it to hook up with girls.By the way PUA techniques are not true status and girls can tell the difference.

Good body language isn't what makes or breaks you getting laid.And when you are just being genuine you will have fine body language anyways.Your looks/wheter she is DTF is the deciding factor.

A few body language things here and there can help a bit.Sure,don't put your hands in your pockets and stare at the ground when you go up to hot girls in a club.But PUA's put too much emphasis on largely irrelevant details.They think the body language gets you laid.It doesn't.It could only fuck you getting laid up.Does that make sense?

@heywouldyablowme

Not quite sure what you are rambling about.How is anything you just said going to help me stick my dick in a girls mouth?

Consider this my last post.

Can't say I didn't warn you.

Peace.

The only problem with having a huge ego is it makes you rely on other people for your emotional state. You give other people the power to either boost or shoot down your ego. Women can sense this from a mile away, particularly your eagerness for positive feedback.

See spoilt American children with weak parenting skills and Kanye West for examples of what can happen when you allow an ego to grow unchecked beyond its own ability and knowledge.

Ego and confidence are two very different things. You've got a lot to learn boy.