Your correct, I don't think before I speak and I end up putting too much focus on the issue causing me to mess up. She said she had plans next Sat, like she was seeing someone but tried to play it off as if it were friends, that or she thought I mentioned it too soon and didn't want to see me. I know I'm not suppose to care but the thought of her being with someone else and liking him way more then me, hurts - I stress about it - how do I fix that?

Important: I think she may hv been double minded about seeing me again. However, she did say (for some reason) "ok" to me telling her I'll let her know if I'm in town. What's my next move, how should I take it from here - to call, text, etc?

How should I have suggested a meet up. I thought that if I said, "Hey we have some catching up to do, I'd like to see you again." Would sound needy...

Btw, I appreciate the way your speaking with me your very intelligent and respectful. Thanks.

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One of the most significant things you'll learn is that you should never invest energy into worrying about variables which you cannot control. In this case, I'm referring to other guys that are vying for her attention (hint: any girl that isn't completely ugly will have at least a few guys contacting them most of the time). Despite what you may think, most of these guys are going to blow it with her and dig their own graves by being socially retarded. There will be creepers who literally come right out and tell her that they want to fuck way too early and she'll freak out and never talk to them again. Others will be boring, or they won't have the balls to kiss her even after the 5th date. The list goes on.

Let these uncontrollable variables work themselves out and invest your energy in the things that you have power over. I listed some of these in one of my previous posts in this topic, such as getting a new hair cut, new clothes, and working on your inner game (confidence). You have no idea how much better you'll feel once you learn to differentiate between these two types of variables.

It really is as simple as saying something like "We definitely have some catching up to do. I'm thinking drinks at McDonald's on Friday, around 7." Don't actually go to McDonald's, of course.

If she declines and doesn't suggest an alternative date, that's normally an indication of neutral or low interest. At that point, I typically like to try a second time later on, and if she declines that, I move on.

I'm trying to work on my inner game, I been working out and so far lost 10 lbs! I'm becoming more dedicated to the gym. Mentally, what can I do to take away anxiety, stress and hurt and not be needy and more relaxed, alpha and confident instead of pedastool'ing her. (The fact you mentioned there's no pressure and I hv nothing to lose helped."

"It really is as simple as saying something like "We definitely have some catching up to do. I'm thinking drinks at McDonald's on Friday, around 7." Don't actually go to McDonald's, of course.

If she declines and doesn't suggest an alternative date, that's normally an indication of neutral or low interest. At that point, I typically like to try a second time later on, and if she declines that, I move on."

So since I already asked once and she already had "plans" for the 15th (when I was free. I'm free next 22nd), when should I call her again? I initially called her on the 6th. And when I do call is there anything i can say that we both can discuss to break the ice, also Is there anything I should know so that I dont mess up.

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Since you're not free for a long time, you definitely don't want to set this up too far in advance. I like to wait 3-4 days before the target date.

As for breaking the ice? The big thing is to make sure that you DON'T overanalyze it before you call. Otherwise, you'll have all these hypothetical situations stored in your head, and the minute the conversation doesn't go like you rehearsed, you'll freeze up and the entire conversation will collapse. Think of a good way to start the conversation out, then simply trust yourself to be able to take it from there.

Ok, got it. I obviously don't want to bombard you with questions, so that's all for now - I'll keep you updated bro. So, when I think of what to say or how to be funny my mind goes completely blank and idk what to discuss. Is there anything in particular to say that would be funny, start the convo and show I'm friendly instead of being rude or offensive.

Lasty she couldn't make the 15th so my only option is the 22nd, meaning I should call her around the 16th to 18th. Am I waiting too long to contact her, would this work,

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With such a long time gap, I'd probably call her at least once before then to keep in touch. You can also shoot her a quick text if, for example, something happens to you during the day that is funny or something like that. Just don't try to carry on a huge conversation through texting, as I said in your other topic.

Of course, there's no definite period of time or any set rule for this kind of thing so don't overanalyze it. If you want to make contact, do it. Otherwise, don't.

Snarg, just wanted to keep you updated on how things were going. After a few days I txt'ed her saying this

http://i.imgur.com/Dw4afwf.png
http://i.imgur.com/0CSPkBO.png
http://i.imgur.com/54WPCez.png

How'd I do?

Doing this I felt like I overcame a fear.
What I'm concerned about is that she didn't try to set up a meeting with me for next Sat (we always seen each other on Sat). So I'm hesitant about calling her to arrange something or maybe I'm looking too deep in things.

P.S. She commented on a FB pic I hv. I posted a pic of a giant teddy bear I got with a note that said, "From your secret admirer. She commented, "looks like someone gots a secret admirer...or a stalker lol" I comment 1-2 hours back, (at 1:00 am) "Fret not, I hv pepper spray" she didn't reply. Maybe cause it got too late but she didn't the following day either.

What's my next move?

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Also she's starting to comment on my FB status' so that's a good sign right? Should I call her up and ask her to hang out or wait more? Im just a bit confused on how to play this.

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