I keep hearing that attraction alone causes girls to flake and it does not get you the girl.
And that's the problem with playing too much attraction game.
It's comfort and qualification that gets you the girl.

I don't understand why this is????

If she really likes you (attraction) shouldn't that obviously get you the girl????

That's retarded. Who told you that?

Sinn.
Attraction alone doesn't get you the girl - qualification does.

Mr. M from love systems.
Attraction without qualification won't win you the girl. Attraction is the water. Qualification solidifies it into ice.

It's a common knowledge in the community that pumping all the attraction will get laughs and giggles but it won't get you the girl. And I don't understand why.

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And also from my recent experiences
The girl was really into me (from daygame) but refused to give me her number. Only wanted to facebook.

Or this other girl who was really into me but left randomly for reasons I am still trying to understand why

http://www.pualingo.com/pua-definitions/attraction/

Yes, you don't rely just on Attraction, you need more than it. Comfort, qualification and building rapport.

Think of it this way: You see a girl, she's amazing looking. Got her high heels on, lovely dress, big tits being pushed all the way into her face, nice round ass, everything. She's hot and you want to talk to her(attraction). Then you talk to her... and what's this? She's really boring. Is that a turn on or a turn off? Turn off. You're a guy, you don't care though so you try it on anyway but she's got no personality. In this situation you're only going to give her more time and effort if she's clearly DTF.

Flip side: Average looking girl, you'd fuck her, decent tits, decent body, decent ass, everything. You start talking. Holy shit! This chick is really interesting! She's been all over the world, knows how to talk and speaks well and clear, she's really interesting! Turn on or turn off? Turn on! Shit, is this chick for real? Best move on... Holy crap! She has a personality to match. She's funny, can take a joke. Turn on! You want to fuck her more now than you did before.

See what i'm getting at here? Men and women are much the same with some slight but significant differences here and there and you can bet your bottom dollar all the PUA gurus know this! Hell, look at Strauss; the dude gave chicks the exact same "dating" advice he's been giving guys for years right down to Triangular gazing!

Step by step is pretty much this:

Approach/Opener(Attraction)
Mid-Game(Comfort/Qualification)
Closing(Seduction).

I wouldn't consider n-closing "closing." N-closing is mid-game.

Approaching/Opening should be built up on attraction which is having a neutral or higher level of attraction built up so they don't mind you physically being there talking to them.

Mid-Game is building up comfort and qualifying/having them qualify for you. After the pleasantries/introductions you start building up rapport, sharing stories, getting to know her and Demonstrating Higher Value without making it obvious("I've travelled a lot, met X, Y and Z and I know a lot of people", etc., etc.)

Closing is basically having built up comfort, qualification(DHV) and attraction(All three are essential) then phase-shifting and letting her know subtly/through body language that you're attracted to her and want to fuck or kiss her(Kino escalate, get closer and more intimate, focusing on her eyes and lips more actively).

Throughout the conversation you should be able to gauge whether or not she's into you. All of the tricks or techniques you'll play in your meeting are basically to rise her interest in you, get her attached to you and for you to gauge her level of interest, whether or not she'll allow you to kiss her or take her home. For example "bouncing" with a girl is basically a form of compliance and a huge IOI of her level of interest in you. She doesn't have to go with you, she chooses to go with you(IOI). You grab her by the hand and lead(DHV) her, she doesn't shy away and holds back(IOI). You isolate her, she smiles, laughs and enjoys being alone with you(IOI). PHASE SHIFT!! Mr.Seduction comes out to play, gives her the "I want to fuck you" look, escalates kino, looks into her eyes and applies Style's Triangular Gaze technique to let her know you want to kiss her. Boom, go in for it.

Anything after Isolation is basically overkill if you want to k-close a girl. If she goes with you out alone and enjoys your conversation she's interested in you. If she's hesitant at first her level of interest is neutral but she's interested enough to let you try convince her you're something she can't miss out on.

The OP is confusing concepts, I'm assuming he is reading English PUA from a non-english background.

It is your WHOLE game, and if you game well, you get the girl.

And your game consists of following steps/phases:
1. Create attraction: you open the girl, get her on the hook, you show DHV and after a few minutes she decides that you are fun to talk to. This is the attraction mentioned in the material.
2. Attraction is just the beginning. The girl is willing to talk to you and you are not there yet. You have talked a lot, shown some DHV, but to get the game going on, now it is time for the girl to get invested. Which means now the girl does the talking. You have shown your worth, now she is showing who she is. Often she does not realize that she is qualifying herself to you. By doing this, she is more perceptive for you and your game.
3. Comfort: if you played well and step 1 & 2 are completed, the girls notices that she is liking/actracted to you. Still she is unsure. She doesn't know you and is afraid that you only want sex from her. Then it is time to build in some comfort. This makes her feel trusted to be around with you and it diminishes the ASD/LMR

Above mentioned are high-level description of the steps. Hope this helps mate.

I appreciate your input and have read through your posts.

You basically outlined Mystery's M3 module of which I am already very, very well familiar with.

However my question still remains un-answered.
Why is simply generating massive levels of attraction not enough for you to get the girl? Let's say I want to skip comfort and qualification entirely and do nothing but --> pump her attraction levels through the roof (which I am very good at doing) and getting her to laugh till her face turns pink. WHY IS THIS IN-ITSELF NOT SUFFICIENT?!

Sinn claims that over-doing attraction is a waste of time and can endanger your game entirely (by you not having the time to enter qualification & comfort) and thus lead to flakes. This I don't understand.

If you have achieved massive attraction (but minimum qualification or comfort)then why would that lead to flakes.


(((For example the girl that I was talking to recently was laughing, qualifying herself to me. She was Clearly into me. But then refused to give out her number and left for no reason.)))

No, i'm having difficulty understanding the point that you are trying to make. And I have no idea how the story relates to the point that you are trying to make. Please explain.

What I said in that piece was that people who can carry a conversation and are genuinely interesting beyond initial attraction are more attractive overall. This is what you need to convince a woman of: I have much more attractive qualities than my looks. Looks alone won't interest a woman enough to sleep with you, you need to be able to carry her attention and interest.

You will only score someone based on looks alone if you're lucky. If you're decent looking but can carry a conversation and be interesting you won't be scoring because of luck, you'll have more control over it and be scoring down to skill.
Making a chick laugh is basically gaining rapport/comfort. You're mixing things up I think...

No.

Making a chick laugh does generate very minimum levels of rapport (since it establishes a frame of familiarity among other reasons) but is not part of the arsenal of rapport-building techniques. Making a chick laugh is an attraction switch because you are showing her that you have social intelligence and you're fun. Both attraction switches. Making a chick laugh is part of the attraction phase - NOT the comfort phase.

The comfort phase is more low-energy and serious.

The comfort phase relies on a completely different set of skills and tactics.
Including finding commonalities (in values, interests, beliefs, experiences), expression your passion, grounding your identity, expressing vulnerability, learning more about each other (including her intimate secrets), and showing her that you understand her world + the emotions that she's going through (by relating to her emotions).

Generating laughter as a comfort building tactic is a weak move because you are ignoring a variety of other tactics that are more effective at gaining rapport.

I always viewed laughing as a form of rapport/comfort. She feels more at ease with you after you've made her laugh, not necessarily more attracted to you. I don't try to make a chick laugh in the attraction phase but then again I do have a serious persona which a lot of women find attractive, especially when you're forcing IOIs. I find it good to make a girl laugh mid-game with a bit of kino as it spikes the conversation when you're being serious so it doesn't become too dull. Yes, laughter as a reliance for comfort isn't great that's why you use it in conjunction with story telling, etc.

I personally see laughter as a poor way to build attraction and much more useful in mid-game. I always viewed it as something people employ to force an IOI from a woman. The only good laughter in attraction is breaking rapport in a semi-serious, semi-funny way. That can really ramp up attraction because you're disengaging somewhat, disagreeing with her and it's not serious, her only means to reply is to laugh or giggle and clamour for your attention.

Thank you for your informative input.

Please help me figure out the answer to this question because it's killing me.

Because human beings are social creatures. We thrive on interacting with other individuals or with groups. It's human nature to be social, engage in conversations and want to be surrounded and liked by other people. That is why attraction alone will not get you the girl and why you need to be sociable, intelligent, funny, witty and genuinely interesting to ultimate seduce a woman and have her wholly attracted to you. We, both men and women, require our social desires to be stimulated otherwise we lose interest rapidly.

Girls get attracted all the time. They're not like guys where attraction is usually enough to hook up because they have much more options. Qualification is important because she must feel that you're interested in her for more than just sex. When you only get her attracted when you text her she thinks "he was cool...he was funny and interesting then he asked for my number. He MUST only be interested in me for my looks and therefore sex because he didn't really seem to like me for anything other than my appearance" therefore you qualify her so she feels you like her for more than her looks.

Look dude.

I don't know how to say this without coming off as offensive but it is very clear from your posts that you have absolutely no idea what the M3 module is, mystery method is or even love systems method is. The game that you are using has no basis in PUA. You do not have an in-depth understanding of game. Period.

I know you may hate me now for saying this but I only do so out of love for a fellow player.

I strongly suggest that you study the mystery method.
Learn what comfort and qualification is. Because you clearly do not know what those terms are.

Forgive me if I have spoken too harshly. I respect all fellow players especially those with high-post counts who attempt to contribute to the community.