It just doesn't feel right to me. I feel stupid and "desperate" when trying to do it. As if thinking: if you were someone with higher value you wouldn't need to game girls on streets..you'd have them as part of your social life.
Any perspective on why my thinking is wrong?

How are they going to get in your social circle if you don't meet them?

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Through work environment, college campus, mutual friends throwing house parties, clubs, membership to same interest groups?

Sure, sure, I get what your laying down, I just prefer not to keep my options, narrow.

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And its good to keep options open, and sure there are so many hot ones out on the streets and in other public placs like grocery store, that it would be a crime not to approach. In in a grocery store you have the excuse of asking for ingredients or on a subway train, both sitting, a compliment to an item of clothing she is wearing and you build from there.
But on the streets...like I see in PUA videos...running up to a girl and going "hey" seems a bit desperate to me. Especially if you are approaching 10s and 9s.
I have done it a few times (AFC working to get better) recently just to say to the target "just coming over to say you look good today, that is all", and walking off. Doing this to destroy my AA. Still need to practice to thent go to next step.

I will re-frame my question better: what do you tell yourself so as not to believe you are a desperate guy who has to resort picking up girls on street corners?

I tell myself meeting new people is natural and human, I don't go in as 'trying to get laid' angle at all.

Why be afraid of what a woman will say? Those who attracted to you will react positively! And those who don’t aren’t worth listening to anyway.

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Daygame can be so rewarding but it takes a while to dial down the right vibe and energy required to get any results

Dude, in order to have girls in the first place even as a social circle, you 1st. need to meet women.

You have to understand that as a student of pickup, you are different that 99% of other men in the sense that the average guy does NOT approach women!

The average guy gets laid occasionally through a social circle by fucking a fatty.

As a PUA practitioner, you are a rare man by having the balls to approach women on the streets!

That is high value bro! Beta males wouldn't attempt that.

Read these 2 articles of mines on the subject: http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2014/01/30 ... in-common/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2014/01/22 ... y-exposed/

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Dude, you're looking to be friendzoned by wanting to have these girls in your social life. Girls do NOT fuck their male friends. Do you get that? You cannot befriend a girl and then decide to game her at a later time when you've already positioned yourself as wanting her in your social life.

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Nothing wrong with meeting women in the middle of the street. However, you gotta know how to select your target and location.

If the street is to busy, I usually chase her until there's enough space around her for me to stop her. That way I minimize rejection.

Also, I don't approach girls who are in a hurry or talking on the phone, while you CAN get their digits, the chances aren't particularly good.

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Exactly. You aren't approaching her to 'get' anything from her: Instead, for example, you need her help with something (anything). As the quoted post says you have to dial in to the right smooth energy and not come off as eager AT ALL.

That is because it is by definition "stupid". You are right in this assertive analysis. I have gone on this rant before but here it goes again. However I am adding a little more this time.

WHY IT DOESN'T WORK
Because it hasn't worked before as you mentioned. Street game is no game however before we get into the exceptions of street game let's go over the reasons why it doesn't.

You are interrupting people in the middle of their day that proves nothing. I thought about it once but backed down and never looked back. A 3 Set walking through the Square but the best was an HB8 and I was just scouting at the moment so very disappointed that was the only Set in 30 min on a Saturday.

WHAT I CHANGED
As MM mentioned in his book "Mystery Method" there exists Target Poor Locals and Target Rich Locals. I didn't know this at the time but as the book says I was visiting the target rich and sarging hardcore but also scouting (scoping for target rich locals) and found an excellent discovery.

MY NEW PLAN
But first the target poor locals

Target Poor Locals (low frequency sometimes 0)
Indoor Malls
Gym
Stores
Work
Streets

Those are your target poor locals so the first mistake you are making is you are picking the wrong avenues by which to harness the skills of an artist of love aka PUA. How will you achieve this? Visiting the same locals? Come on man that's for amateurs come play with the big boys. Yes I learned this all last year and that was my first year of pick up and now this year it is time to blow the top off. Not only is it extremely frustrating to walk around a huge indoor mall for an hour during Summer in a big city it is super lame when you do so to sarge since not enough actual live game. So what's the solution? Keep doing what you are doing or get near a big city within an hour drive. I am 40 miles out from one. Where did Pick Up originate with MM to begin with? In a big city ie LA so much of this stuff will cause great hindrance when you try pick up small town game. Will work just gotta be super patient and super assertive.

Target Rich Locals (Big City on a Summer night 5-20)
Bars
Clubs
Water Parks
Theme Parks
Holiday Events
Beer Festivals
Pool Parties

Keep in mind this is all pretty much Summer only for maximized impact. Most HB's hibernate in the colder months and congregate in the tropical months. For example...

Exhibit A
One dark Summer Night I met up with a wing I recruited at the Club (proved unreliable) however this night was unique.

8-10 Sets, a couple numbers, opened a dime piece (HB9) who fell in love with my opener, hit up the Bar and scored 4 numbers in 30 minutes. To give you an overall perspective I am a stickler for waiting to open Club chicks not till 11. Always start at the Club and end at the Bar. My take from 11pm-12:45am was 6 phone numbers. This was an epic night and never happened on a winter's eve so I figured to cut the snow bunnies loose in favor of the Summer bunnies.

To give you brass tax I did 14-15 approaches in a matter of 1 hour and 45 min! Now try that in an indoor mall sin't gonna happen dude you are going to be scouring that place for an hour to find one target lucky to even get a crack at a 7. I was so in the zone that night I was owning the Club and then the Bar. So incredible that was right around when I quit going to gear up for this year. I knew something "big" was coming.

And it did Day Game! Can you imagine 15 approaches at night and 10 earlier that day? Insane right? That's this year bud. A typical Summer sarge will play out Water Park>Outdoor Mall>Club>Bar and 2-3 nights back to back a month during Summer! The possibilities are endless this is why my FR's this Summer are going to be a mile long and that my fellow PUA is the way I play the game. I live to sarge cuz picking up a chick at the Gym is dumb. Oh an street game? Try the strip at night?! I didn't even count those in my figures as I approached on the street on the way to the Bars! Street Game?

Street Game works best on...
The Club/Bar Strip
Holiday Events (Think St. Paddy's Parade HB's crawling for blocks and blocks need I say more?) remember this is for big cities so get up and get in action

If you're starting out, street game is good to LEARN:

1. Calibration.

2. Well polished body language reading skills.

3. Well polished body language projection skills.

4. Growing thicker skin.

5. Building momentum.

However, you'll need to approach en masse before you can actually learn any or all of the above. Approach and open at least 50 girls every time you sarge. Approaching just 5 women a day won't cut it.

However, if you keep on just doing street game and not progressing towards more sophisticated game, then some of the posters here are right-- it's stupid and fucking weird. Keywords: Begin and then Progress

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Well man...I have approached chicks on the street before and have gotten

lays and dates and number closes....personally its all in the mind...reality is

what you make of it. You create the moments YOU want to experience....





The cool thing about the game is...it really does put you in this alter reality

type state and you start viewing the world differently.

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So you're saying to use indirect openers. And what about after the opener? For example; I ask if burito's would taste good with carrots and mushrooms, and she replies with ''yes, i think so''. Do you continue to talk about burito's? How fast should you go for the close? I can imagine that they're not there to talk to you for 15 minutes.