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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:18 pm 
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One technique to accomplish this is using the Charles Givens method.

The gist goes like this: You make a deposit in one bank and then you take out a small back-to-back loan on your deposit. Next, go to another bank and deposit what you borrowed from the other bank. Do not spend the money you borrowed. Before the due date is up, you pay up the loan either using a new round of savings from your end, withdrawing the cash you deposited in the other bank, or taking out a new secured loan in the other bank. You'll spend a little on interest and some transaction fees but you get the opportunity to sarge a very specific demographic (accountants, regular savers who incidentally have more stable personalities than girls who hangout regularly in clubs, businessmen and businesswomen, finance officers and so on.) You're also establishing a good credit history if you always pay up before the due date.

Is this a good method for building credit? You're borrowing money for no reason and paying interest and fees on it. Can you clarify?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:49 pm 
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Overall, I'm just not sure how your post(s) relates to the OP or pick up in general.
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But my feeling is that the social proof test would be especially hard to pass or to bullshit one s way out of it with smart ass funny/ ignoring lines... So you may need the convertible and the bachelor loft attic to get a foot in the door with those girls?
You can build a lot of social proof among wealthy women in banks.
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I have noticed there is A LO-OOO-T of "marry rich" litterature for women, but there does nt seem to be anything similar for men? (I d first have a look at "how to bang rich" litterature if it would lol)
Again, the OP observed that there doesn't seem to be anything similar for men. He has a very specific concern which I have specifically answered including your repeated questions on "How is sarging in a bank pragmatic?"

Honestly, you remind me of one poster's style of argumentation. He expands the scope of the argument so the person he is personally attacking cannot defend from multiple expanded questions. Not cool.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:12 pm 
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Is this a good method for building credit? You're borrowing money for no reason and paying interest and fees on it. Can you clarify?
Building a good credit history in several banks and building good banking relationships face-to-face among several bank managers eventually prepares you for something bigger. OPM fuels many investments as long as you are prudent with the use of leverage.

Back-to-back loans also have lower fees and interests than, say, getting an unsecured or secured credit card (at least in my place).

You also get to bang pussies with wealth (and cash) who tend to be generous after a skillful banging.

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I am definitely not surprised by the number of different posters who are contributing on this post (ie very FEW).

HH if you really have experience doing that (and yes it makes sense to go where the money is, except the reason you gave for it "rolling deposits" ahahah ;) ), then you should :
give an example of a specific sarge ;
or the demographics of girls you have been able to sarge in banks (indication of country / city maybe as well) ;
or the kind of success rate.. etc
In order to make your post less "I read in a book", even though since the PUAs with experience in that field are so rare and few, I guess even brainstorming is welcome to a certain extent.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:33 am 
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Also beware when you get advice on books, especially regarding if the advice giver uses its own medicine...
From Wikipedia, on Charles Givens :
"The California fraud case found that he had misled his customers by claiming that he had made his money using his financial strategies, rather than by SELLING his financial strategies..."

That is where Kasabi had a point, there can be a HUGE gap between books / brainstorming "one should do this" and actual field practice...


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:06 pm 
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Givens got into trouble with his insurance advice. Overall, many of his pointers are valid and useful. There's no 100% workable advice; even Warren Buffet fails. Buffet is just more prudent than Givens. Moreover, almost every wealthy man out there has some kind of lawsuit. It's a fact of life.

If you just take the time to sarge at least 2 or 3 times in a bank and are observant enough, you'll understand deposit rollovers and why wealthy people are fond of it. Hint: It has something to do with liquidity and being able to act upon a good investment or business opportunity at the fastest time.

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I do rollover deposits myself... but surely would nt care to put a foot in my bank to do it..

So would be more interested in knowing how many "attractive" girls can be seen in private banks branches, say on Saturday mornings.. (that would be more interesting than lessons on liquidity... ) Probably not that many, my wild guess.
And more interested in experience than theory.. especially if it s the same theory repeated over and over again... ("hints" sound much smarter when it truly comes from experience...)

An unexplored and difficult topic for sure...


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But of course, these observations come from experience coupled with easily verifiable empirical evidences.

We'll just run around in circles and not see eye to eye without you field testing and validating these observations yourself out on field. I've seen it time and again in this forum. Some dudes just go into debates justifying why a theory will not work instead of field testing.

From Stelar to VicParkGuy to SexAddict, I've seen all of these kinds of mental masturbation debates from guys who just love to debate rather than going out and interacting with women.

On the other hand, some guys just go ahead and test the information shared around here. This way, many of us now know for sure who are the KJs and legit seducers around here.

I can say, I did this and I did that but that will only lead to more debates. I've done my part. Do yours. And then we discuss so we have something productive going on.

If you're doing your banking online to rollover your time deposits then you need to physically go into a bank and see the people in there who rollover their time deposits in person and work on other types of banking transactions.

Now, get OUT and sarge those rich girls who hangout in banks!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:22 am 
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I've dated a few rich girls. It was really, really awesome. I had no idea they were rich when I first met them.

One girl had a really sweet shower, it had like 10 shower heads and the thing had a mini computer screen to operate, it was crazy. Also, she had a 70" TV, movie chairs, surround sound, etc. The ultimate movie setup (though we tended to lose interest in the movies quickly. 8) ). I also got to go out on her boat, ride in her corvette, and got the perk of never having to pay for anything. It sucks how she moved away. :(

But anyway, the magic of how I scored the rich? How did I know they were wealthy and what did I do special to pick them up?? I didn't know they were rich, and I did the same exact type of 'game' that I'd do to anyone.

The first rich girl I ever approached was at my community college. She wasn't wearing anything special, just looked like any other student there. Hair up, normal shirt, jeans. No noticeable brand name or expensive jewelry. She was just hot. But when I went to pick her up...I pull in the driveway of a house that must've been at least $2 million. The thing was a frickin mansion right on the lake.

To answer your question though? You could sarge in rich areas. Keep in mind, that would only <b>increase the probability</b> of meeting a rich girl. I don't think there's any real way to know which girl has $50 million in her savings account.


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In my experience (have some decent statistics by now..) girls receptive to PUA techniques are mostly "open minded" girls (e.g. journalist, or think some artisty background such as make-up artist, music, graphic design, photograph, architect, fashion etc), students, the ones that have regular "boring" jobs with little career hopes (waitresses, shop clerks...), etc you get the picture (plus of course the ones looking for a "suitable" boyfriend, career included).

So, my question is, how to get the upper-middle class or upper class girls? Of course going to the same places as they do, clubs, country clubs etc could be an obvious place to start. But my feeling is that the social proof test would be especially hard to pass or to bullshit one s way out of it with smart ass funny/ ignoring lines... So you may need the convertible and the bachelor loft attic to get a foot in the door with those girls?

I have noticed there is A LO-OOO-T of "marry rich" litterature for women, but there does nt seem to be anything similar for men? (I d first have a look at "how to bang rich" litterature if it would lol)
When you have had many girls, it may look like a new goal to set oneself.

lol! at this post and some of the responses. I will tell you that you going after the girls money, is kind of putting them on a pedestal, no different that when dudes put hot girls on a pedestal and may be counter productive. Also there is no "technique/tactic" to go for "wealthy girls" vs "other women". The main problem i would assume is the access to their social circle, usually the really really rich "Hampton type crowd" only mix among themselves and do not really allow outsiders. But i am sure you are not talking about those girls. David d says "attraction is not a choice". As you noticed many dudes say they met the girls and went through the pick up processes, and were surprised when they found out the girl had money, it was just un expected.

The advantage of girls with money is that since they have money, if you are attractive they will usually do not worry much about your money or lack of, and of course you can get them invested in you with sex (imo highest form of investment). There is a seducer i know that is a lawyer dating a girl worth 12 mill. he met her online, though he is a lawyer but on his profile he said he was a janitor.... Keep in mind she was 19. With 30 + girls this may be problem since they are looking for future husband.

The problem will arise if you were to go into a ltr, there may be friction with family and friends. And if she has money some times may be a means of control etc...

I really don't get the point of this post, i personally go for women that i like their personality, looks and sexual performance, I don't think being rich is on my list, a decent job and having her own money to support herself will do.

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So it would start to emerge from (still) a (very) few experiences here, that **some** well-to-do (let s use that word FROM NOW ON to avoid bad "gold diggers" connotations, which "wealthy" and "rich" appear to create in a lot of less well-to-do guys...) are pick-up-able just like any other chick (maybe some of the ones with net worth <10M? just a guess..).
That came from stories from GradiO, skills360, Majikal.

Skills said : "i personally go for women that i like their personality, looks and sexual performance, I don't think being rich is on my list, a decent job and having her own money to support herself will do."
Good for you !! everybody has his own motivations in life, it s up to anyone to know what they want out of it at moment "t".
As I said in the thread, I am not going for the girl money (yet !.. lol), I am a true PUA in the sense that I love women, not looking to settle with anyone and only one (or the first one better than the average of my lays, like a lot of wanna be PUA tend to do), so... no point to question the post motivation.
"The main problem i would assume is the access to their social circle"
Exactly ! that is obvious and has come up a lot in the thread without any real method around.. except (so far) via Internet dating, and the law of big numbers : if you sarge 100 girls at truly random places in your city, then there is a 1% chance that you will meet one (1) that belongs to the top 1% of wealth distribution…..

HH may give it a shot.. on one side makes sense but on the other looks very difficult to put in practice without an hassle... and I like to have fun when I sarge... Like for example would need to look at private bank branches in the city center that may be worth it and where minimum deposit is not a crazy amount...


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...Like for example would need to look at private bank branches in the city center that may be worth it and where minimum deposit is not a crazy amount...
No need to immediately open an account. What I did initially was to ask the account officers of several banks what the products and services were and had some clarifications on the available pamphlets (what the jargon means, what the figures mean and so on) at the bank counter tops.

Some take good care of new customers so you'll easily spend some 30 minutes to one hour seated while other clients are waiting for their turn. You can try some of Gambler's nonverbal techniques to get IOIs. You can easily sarge in some 10 to 12 banks or credit unions at the city center if you live in a medium size city.

So once you're in there being a normal guy (who takes good care of his financial health... people in there will sense this) it's easy for the regular clients to feel comfortable around you. You're basically building comfort and attraction just by being in there taking care of your financial health.

The next part that you need to address is on how to make girls horny while you're inside the banks so you can easily isolate some of the customers. If women don't feel any sexual spark in your presence, it will be a tall order to isolate them for coffee or donuts. You'll likely get introduced to a lot of bookkeepers and accountants in the beginning but this is all good for social proofing.

Brand yourself as the reliable, trustworthy guy that the people in banks (from the security officers to the tellers to the managers to regular clients) feel comfortable with and you're basically in.

It's like building an emotional connection en masse without too much work.

I usually sarge on a Wednesday. Friday is payroll day for most small businessmen/businesswomen so people take care of the payroll a few days before Friday.

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Came here to see what all the fuss is about.

Kasabi, you are making the false assumption that rich women are only ever looking for a provider. In that case, yes, if she is looking for a boyfriend or a husband, things like wealth and status probably matter to her, depending on the girl.

But if we are talking about pickup and "just sex", rich girls are the same as trailer trash in terms of what they are attracted to. My current girlfriend earns more than $100,000 a year (I earn only a third of that) and when I met her she had been with a minor celebrity dude for years and years who is a millionaire. I approached her, we hit it off, I kissed her out of her boyfriend's sight and she confided she wasn't happy. We started fucking, she dumped him after 6 months of seeing me. When he realised he was losing her, he took her on expensive holidays, took her to the best restaurants and spoilt her with jewellery. Yet she still left him for me.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Your theory doesn't work.

And in answer to the OP's question, I wouldn't recommend banks for sarging. I've had great results at charity balls and fund-raising events. They're full of wealthy cougars and milfs.


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Came here to see what all the fuss is about.

Kasabi, you are making the false assumption that rich women are only ever looking for a provider. In that case, yes, if she is looking for a boyfriend or a husband, things like wealth and status probably matter to her, depending on the girl.

But if we are talking about pickup and "just sex", rich girls are the same as trailer trash in terms of what they are attracted to. My current girlfriend earns more than $100,000 a year (I earn only a third of that) and when I met her she had been with a minor celebrity dude for years and years who is a millionaire. I approached her, we hit it off, I kissed her out of her boyfriend's sight and she confided she wasn't happy. We started fucking, she dumped him after 6 months of seeing me. When he realised he was losing her, he took her on expensive holidays, took her to the best restaurants and spoilt her with jewellery. Yet she still left him for me.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Your theory doesn't work.

And in answer to the OP's question, I wouldn't recommend banks for sarging. I've had great results at charity balls and fund-raising events. They're full of wealthy cougars and milfs.

^ yea this is right!, though 100k is year is not really wealthy now at days. By the definition is 250k plus, and now a days not even.

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^ yea this is right!, though 100k is year is not really wealthy now at days. By the definition is 250k plus, and now a days not even.
True but her lifestyle with her boyfriend was that of a millionaire, so the same principle applies


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