Whithout attacking the woman, whithout being agressive? In daygame I go up to tall girls and say: "You seem to be good at sports." And I often get a cold stare, or a total freeze-out. How could I demonstrate that I have a frame at least as strong as theirs? I think they are testing, because they are after strong guys??

I want to dominate dominant girls. I look for ages 23, whereas I am 36.

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You're coming from the wrong frame. Do you want to have success with women or do you just want to bring them down? You shouldn't want to "attack" any girls' frames. You're there to have fun, so just be playful and create/run with drama playfully.

"I am the alpha guy" and behaving like one is a better frame to have than "I want to dominate girls" - where "I want to" means "I currently don't/can't dominate girls but would somehow like to because it will make me feel better for some reason".

For what purpose do you want to dominate? That's a destructive line of thought where it's "I win, you lose". Having fun is a constructive line of thought where it's "we both win", even if there is playful drama and banter. Interactions aren't competitions, so the "I must dominate" frame doesn't work, but actually becoming a genuine alpha guy will help you see more success.

Anyway, you discovered something you tried saying didn't work the way you thought it would, each time you tried it. It doesn't work. Accept it and transition to the next topic of conversation with the girls you're interacting with.

TLDR: Don't be an asshole, just have fun and don't repeat things that don't work.

You shouldn't need to be aggressive or dominant for daygame. You should be nice, friendly, give the girl compliments. Nobody approaches women during the day, the fact you are approaching at all sets you apart from 99% of other guys.

Be friendly. You don't need to test her frame if she hasn't shit-tested you yet. They blank you because your opener is fricking weird / out of context and because you're not being clear enough with your intentions. Also it's a shit opener because she can only really give a one-word answer of "yup" or "no" then the conversation dies.

My opener is weird because I am weird, but I tell you what. Chicks are also strange, it is enough just to look at them: all those pink hairs, shaved heads, body art and you name it.

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The fact they look somehow doesn't mean there aren't fragile inside. Stop judging people, perhaps then you might get some results.

You asked for our advice because your approach is not working. Don't get defensive and stubborn. You will never succeed if you don't listen to good advice.

first of all, stop trying to say anything out of the ordinary when you approach women in day game. And second of all, if you're trying to break women's frame in the middle of the day when they are just dressed normally and going about their average day then you are going to receive negative results.

try saying a simple HI HOWS IT GOING.. did that ever occur to you? most women don't get hit on during this time so approaching is enough to give you value in itself. don't be an idiot, go with the vibe and you'll learn your own material as you progress with women.

tell her hi, whats your name, what do you do, i like your shirt, hair, etc. things of that nature and bring up random topics about whatever, hug her, kiss her hand, be funny, be flirtatious, be normal. and stop going around trying to talk shit to women in the middle of the day so they think you are better then them because it wont work. less is more and i always say, if you can make yourself laugh then it will make others laugh with you unless you're a complete douche bag but you'll find out.

I dont say You are bad at sports, I say You are good at sports, that is actually a compliment.

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It's just a weirdly phrased opener "You seem like you're good at sports", but it's probably not working because you're fucking up somewhere else, not because of the content of the opening line itself. You possibly have creepy body language, creepy eye contact, or the girl simply doesn't like you or doesn't have time to be picked up.

For daygame on the street, you should make your intentions clear from the start, because the sub-context of pickup is not there; the girl is not expecting to be picked up. You could even go up to a girl and say something cliché like, "You're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in this city. I'm Hunter by the way, pleased to meet you" *handshake* . I've done this successfully many times. It's all about how confident you are, holding strong eye contact etc. Don't get caught up trying to think of a unique opener, keep it simple and just say it confidently.

If you're out shopping or in a library, you can start a conversation about books or shopping (boring fluff) and bounce off that.

Confidence comes from success, or you try to play it out, but self comes through. What if I am not very confident, and earlier I used to sputter. When I use a weird line I speak slower. Anyway don't you have some beginer level advice?

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Confidence does not come from success, it comes from not giving a shit, not caring about the outcome of the interaction.

You want to dominate dominant women? Good luck with that you fucking loser. That just shows you are a very weak and rather pathetic individual if you have to go that far to make yourself feel better. Dominating anyone is wrong dude and you need to grow the fuck up. No decent or intelligent women I know wants some asshole creep like you controlling and dominating their fucking lives you idiot. As for how young you THINK you look, your big bloody ego needs to be looked at as well.

I would add 23 year olds rarely go for anyone past 29-31
You should try 25-28 up better results probably.

I apologise for my terrible behaviour in my previous approach. Sometimes being alone gets too much for me and I took it out on you. You don't need to grow up, you're not an idiot and your ego does not need to be looked at.
I hope you dominate the fuck outta her

Spy, I am just researching how PUAs change state. This is not my idea. I took the whole concept from 2007 PUA summit videos, video 9, where female PUA says: "I love and suggest to adobt such strength that destroys my frame" "Yes, I want men destroy my frame" So this is how dumb jocks, criminal types, and jerk guys get laid.

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