Ok, this question comes from a specific example but would be good to know for general use.

Recently, I have been lightly gaming a girl I know who has a boyfriend. We also chat on facebook and I reckon I am getting semi-warm IOIs. I wouldn't take a girl from her boyfriend but the other day her relationship status disappeared and her profile picture changed from him in it to just her. If that makes sense :S

Anyway, the question is how do you find out if a girl has a boyfriend? And how do you know how long to leave it after a girl splits up with her bf?

If you were friends with the guy she was dating, contemporary "man laws" range between 6 months to never.

However, as a PUA, my response is: Who cares? Game her just like any other girl, and if it works out, it works out.

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so what u do is u just continue gaming her, if she is still in the realtionship she will b the one to let u know(and dont b discouraged if she is, the chances r she is in the rough with this guy at the moment so it is ur chance to show urself... basically when talkin to her about her bf be on his side but at the same time keep puttin the phrase 'most guys are like that' in htere which implies that u r not one of those guys who gets jealous or w/e..
another point is that u should not give her any time off, if u will some other guy will go ahead and take her
hope that helps

I used to think the same way, I was always worried the girl had a boyfriend. But I've now changed my mindset. I was once gaming a girl in one of my classes. Her bf found a text from me and he messaged me on Facebook pretty much threatening me. I stopped talking to her, and a while later they broke up. I haven't talked to her since, but my roommate oddly enough has a class with her. He asked her about her exes message to me, and she had no idea about it. I guess she was a little upset after hearing about the message, and she was wondering why I stopped talking to her. So in the end, I realize the boyfriend doesn't matter. If she is having doubts about him, its not going to work anyways. Don't give up like I did, but be prepared to get into a confrontation. My buddy and his girlfriend are going through this whole "facebook breakup" thing. He thinks she is cheating on him, she bitches if he talks with another girl. Its not a healthy relationship, and they would probably be better off ending it. I wish someone would get the balls to steal her, he has always been the whipped one in the relationship.

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generally when gaming a girl, it doesnt matter if she has a bf or not, i remember that i read from somewhere (maybe MM) that bf is just a speed hump not a stop sign. So unless the girl drops the B bomb on you, dont ask. and if ur game is tight, it's unlikely that she will drop the B bomb.

AMP UP YOUR GAME BOY! Turn it up and flip those switches more than ever now. If she does still have him, AND is not wanting you, she will let you know. Otherwise, by you amping up your game RIGHT NOW, you're practically in.

im kinda stuck here too. i really thought this girl liked me until a couple of days ago i saw a couple signs that she might have a bf or like someone else. shes been talking to me quite a bit and she really gives me a lot ioi's now. but she has never brought up anything about this guy to me personally. ill probably talk to her tonight or tomorrow. i know she was planning to go to this guy's house last night but ended up not going and got pissed about it. (according to her myspace status)

i was thinking about bringing up what she did over the weekend. and see what she could tell me about this guy. i dont know the guys last name so id be like, "matt who? do i know him?" im trying to think of some line to suggest he is her bf, almost like "so youre boyfriend flaked out on you to go play halo eh??" (i just totally made that up idk what he did yet)

anybody got any ideas?

ummm . . . yeah . . . rain, use the same things we just told the original poster.

Why do guys always HAVE to bring up the b/f topic? Just game normally, on the assumption that there isn't a b/f.

alright, well i havent changed my game at all. but L.A, is it even a good idea to drop that line i posted ^^^ so i at least know that shes not playing me?

To know if she's not playing you? Haha. Honestly, you shouldn't even be worried about that. If you are, I'm wondering if you're too invested in that particular girl. Are you looking for something serious and long term from her? If not, then don't even worry about her playing you. You just make sure you have the dominant frame in the interaction, overall relationship.

Basically, this will likely go one of two ways. Either you find out that she is playing you, and you tell her to move on, and you move on.

OR, she's playing you, but you've flipped her attraction switches and built up the spark between you two to such an extent that she is so powerfully attracted to you that she quits playing you and just wants you.

if it were just some other girl i wouldnt care at all. id just move on i know. but im actually trying to start a relationship. i take most of my relationships pretty seriously, not just one night stands. i just use pua tactics to do the best i can at getting the girls i like. am i out of line or something?

Ok, you want a serious relationship with her. That's fine. You want to use PUA principles to achieve that. That's fine too. No, not out of line.

The problem I see is that you want a relationship with her, yet you are worried that she's playing you. What's going on under the surface here? It doesn't sound like a good start to me. Why do you think she's playing you?

ok not necessarily playing me but misleading me. she started a convo with me again on msn today and i dont see how she could not like me. there were more ioi's today. and i think were meeting up. but i think ive got it from here. thanks bro

Why are all you guys so fuccing worried about bf's? As a natural player once told me; The next man will not be worrying(natural players nor clueless AFC's) if your gf has a man(you) so dont be the fool to worry if she has a man. Point is, as much as you may want to play in quasi-moral, the next man isnt going to be thinking about morals when it comes to throwing bf destroyers at your gf. So who gives a shit if she has a bf!!!?

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