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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:34 pm 
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Before I start telling about the current situation with that very cute girl, I want to let you know that I am not American but German. So maybe I am missing some American dating "rules".

I met her online and we exchanged a few emails as well as text messages. We decided to meet up in December 2013 and both enjoyed the first date a lot. Went for a walk and then had dinner afterwards. Guess we spent about five hours talking and enjoying the evening. Except for a hug, no physical contact was made. She sent a text with a smilie right after she got home.

Since we are both very shy and busy, it took us some time to arrange a second date. She said she was not sure if I wanted another one, not was I sure she did.

After the third date she said that she might have to drink a little more wine to get less inhibited.
Basically we went on four dates now and as far as I can judge, it all went good. Last date was on Saturday and we managed to kiss before I left her place. Well, I initiated it but she did not reject.

After the date we again texted for a bit and in one text she said "Thank you for being the one to step out of the comfort zone".

I told her I was thinking about going for a weekend-trip to Paris ( we both live in Germany) and she said she would like to join me if I was okay with it. Jokingly I told her that would make a great fifth date. She responded that she hopes to have that date before going to Paris. Here she again asked if I wanted another date because she was not sure if I did. So I guess we agreed on another date, no day set yet.

Last text I got from her was yesterday morning, I responded to that one and no answer ever since. I know she is busy at work but it really annoys me. ;-) Since I am off work today, I pulled a (stupid/needy?!?) stunt. I drove to a friend`s house and stopped at her place to leave a little note and a bar of chocolate in her mailbox.

Note said: "Hey, just wanted to leave you this little note in your mailbox before heading to a friend's place. With it comes my favorite chocolate. Maybe it helps brighten up your mood after a long day at work!?!"
Obviously this girl is driving me crazy mentally. In a good or bad way? I don't know yet. Question is whether it is normal that it takes more than a day for her to text because we used to text every day. Is she just not that into me or is it me over-reacting?

Maybe I should mention that she already blew two dates due to being busy but always rescheduled right away.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:13 pm 
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Far as i can see you are being to needy and insecure yourself. I mean YOU are the fucking man! Its your job to make things happen. I mean you already kissed her so whats the problem here? Dont dance around the fire for days and weeks. Send her a text (or even better CALL her!) and ask her when she is free to get together. If she wont make a definite date just say "Alright no problem, give me a call when you know when you are free"
I´ll give you my personal opinion on things:
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She said she was not sure if I wanted another one, not was I sure she did.
Of course not...She liked you. And after the first date she wasnt sure whats it going to be. You didnt escalate physically. She thought "Oh maybe he didnt like me" Now she wants some more attention. She wants you to say "No! Of course i want to see you, you´re adorable...."
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After the third date she said that she might have to drink a little more wine to get less inhibited.
Common dude...No that much to say about that! How obvious can it get?!
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After the date we again texted for a bit and in one text she said "Thank you for being the one to step out of the comfort zone".
Translation: Thanks for finally acting like a MAN and having the balls to make the first step, because im a girl and thats not my job!
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Last text I got from her was yesterday morning, I responded to that one and no answer ever since.
Women do this on purpose! She is testing you now. If you´re a little bitch who will starts chasing her. That way she sorts out men with weak behavior. And guess what you stepped right into this trap by doing this:
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I drove to a friend`s house and stopped at her place to leave a little note and a bar of chocolate in her mailbox.
I mean its cute and stuff. You can do this to your GIRLFRIEND. But not in this situation man...Do you think fucking James Bond would do this shit?! But who knows...maybe she thought it was nice and cute but it was needy for sure.
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Is she just not that into me or is it me over-reacting?
Thats exactly it!! What you should do now? Its simple...nothing! Dont call her dont text her dont to anything! Let her come to you! If you mean anything to her she will contact you! And AGAIN, dont dance around the fire and shit chat with her! When she contacts you, you can say "how are you doing blah blah" and then you get right to the point: "When are you free to get together?" If she does not offer you a definite date you say "Ok no problem, if you cant make a definite date we should do it another time. Let me know when you figured out a free day" and than you wait again! Dont fucking chase her now! Seriously!

Ach so und schön das auch mal deutsche Unterstützung am Start ist hier ;-)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:16 pm 
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Ob ich tatsächlich eine große Unterstützung bin, das wollen wir einmal dahingestellt lassen. ;-)

I really thought about it hard whether to drop something into her mailbox this morning or not. Probably should have registered here before doing that. Oh well, it happened and I can only learn from it and not do something like that again.

Will wait for her reaction tonight when she comes home from work. That is if there will be a reaction.

So you think I did not completely bust it yet? At least I managed not to send a message today. ;-)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:37 pm 
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I think you´re still fine. Dont worry. Just dont freak the hell out when she does not answer right away or takes a few days off! Thats normal! Women need time to miss you. Think about that! How is she supposed to develop feelings for you and miss you and wonder about you when you keep chasing and pursuing?
I used to do all these things not to long ago. But once i stopped chasing and texting things got WAY better. It took about 2 weeks (and i know this can be horrific if you´re really into a girl and hoping for her to contact you every day!) for her to contact me again. But guess what...She needed this time! She was and still is oll over me!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:48 pm 
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Just as I am writing this she texted (still at work). In my last text yesterday I told her that I was visiting a friend in the hospital (she works in administration).

So what she just wrote was: " Hey there! How was your hospital visit yesterday?"

Sounds like she just wanted to write something...

Anyways, I won't reply right away. Will still wait till she comes home in the evening and hopefully finds the chocolate and does not get "intimidated"/turned off by that stupid idea I had.

Right move?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:21 pm 
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Im pretty sure she will let you know what she thought about your little gift in her mailbox.
You can text her back. No problem. You can exchange 4-5 texts thats okay. But after that ask her!
Remember every time she reaches out to you, you HAVE TO assume that she wants to see you.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:08 pm 
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Alright, so I will text her later this evening when she is home from work and probably found the little gift... 4-5 text and then ask when to meet up again...

Another question would be the following. Should I continue to looking at profiles at pof (that is where I met her) and writing other women. Or do you think she might retreat when seeing I am still being active there?


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JT gave you some excellent advice so far. I agree that you're not fucked, even with the whole chocolate thing. But for future reference, gifts should really be reserved for when you're in some kind of relationship, otherwise it reeks of desperation. This includes flowers.

Yes, keep searching on PoF for sure. This helps out in so many ways, but the two big ones:

1) It gets your mind off of her and shows yourself that you have options. You'll put less focus on her and that is always a good thing.

2) She'll see you're still active and wonder what she's doing wrong to not have your full attention. That's great, because then she'll try harder to get your attention. She won't "retreat" or anything like that - it's unnatural to do that in the position she's in right now.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:55 pm 
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She won't "retreat" or anything like that - it's unnatural to do that in the position she's in right now.
How exactly would you describe the position she is in right now?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:41 pm 
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Okay, she did send another text regarding the chocolate.

" Awww! Thank you so much. That was so sweet of you! It made my day :-)", " What did you do at your friend's place?"

So I guess it did not go as bad as it could have. Any idea for a reply?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:55 am 
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Send her two texts about an hour after she sent her message and did not hear back from her. Though SPAM shows her online this morning around 5am. Really drives me nuts... haha

This is what I wrote: " Hey, glad you like the chocolate. Just helped a friend move his stuff to a new apartment." "I do hope you had a good day at work?! Will go sleep now as I am really tired. I will leave it up to you figuring out when to meet up again. ;-) You have a good night later!"

That being said, I was the one suggsting the four dates we had. I tried not to write much bla bla. Was it okay like this?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:24 am 
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Send her two texts about an hour after she sent her message and did not hear back from her. Though SPAM shows her online this morning around 5am. Really drives me nuts... haha

This is what I wrote: " Hey, glad you like the chocolate. Just helped a friend move his stuff to a new apartment." "I do hope you had a good day at work?! Will go sleep now as I am really tired. I will leave it up to you figuring out when to meet up again. ;-) You have a good night later!"

That being said, I was the one suggsting the four dates we had. I tried not to write much bla bla. Was it okay like this?
Dude. Everytime I left it up to the girl to plan what to do and when it never worked out. A job of the man is to tell the girl what is going to happen. And when. The job of the girl is to be excited about it and suck your cock.

I'm assuming you are less than 20 years old and you never had a girlfriend before.

Are you basically scared to make a move because what if she's not into you ? Well let me tell you she is into you at the moment so you can pretty much do anything with her. The point is. DO SOMETHING. Take her out for some drinks and fucking jump on her, make out touch her everywhere and then try to get to a location where you two can be alone.

If you don't do this she will lose attraction to you. You might stay a friend of hers, but you will not fuck her if you don't make a move. Take some fucking risks and stop being wishy washy.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:49 am 
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So how do I resolve this now? First I told her to come up with an idea on when to meet again. Now you are telling me I should suggest sth.

Doesn't it sound needy now?


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So how do I resolve this now? First I told her to come up with an idea on when to meet again. Now you are telling me I should suggest sth.

Doesn't it sound needy now?
"Actually I have an idea..., lets do ... on ... (day)" then wait for her to respond. If she's into you she will respond positively.

where to go:
- movies at yours with drinks
- cooking dinner together
- going to a bar close to your place
- basically going anywhere near to your place ideally during the evening

if you take her out, get her back to your place at the end of the day. Then obviously try to escalate sexually etc.

At this point don't think about what you do and whether it is needy. Stop thinking altogether if you can.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:49 pm 
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Well, she is leaving for Italy on Friday (weekend trip) and is working a twelve hour dayshift today and tomorrow. So date number five won't work this week.

But if she really wants to see me, even just for a bit, don't you think she would agree to meet up after work for a few minutes? Or would being tired/exhausted be an excuse?

Was thinking about sending her a message saying that I want to give her a hug before she leaves for Italy. On one hand needy, on the other hand it expresses what I want. If she turns it down, I know what's up.

Another thought I had is that the kiss maybe was a little unexpected. Well, it probably was because she said it came as a surprise, but a good surprise. But would she thank me for stepping out of the comfort zone if she did not like it? Or would she express her hope for another date?

Wow, I am fucking my mind here...


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