In my experience (have some decent statistics by now..) girls receptive to PUA techniques are mostly "open minded" girls (e.g. journalist, or think some artisty background such as make-up artist, music, graphic design, photograph, architect, fashion etc), students, the ones that have regular "boring" jobs with little career hopes (waitresses, shop clerks...), etc you get the picture (plus of course the ones looking for a "suitable" boyfriend, career included).

So, my question is, how to get the upper-middle class or upper class girls? Of course going to the same places as they do, clubs, country clubs etc could be an obvious place to start. But my feeling is that the social proof test would be especially hard to pass or to bullshit one s way out of it with smart ass funny/ ignoring lines... So you may need the convertible and the bachelor loft attic to get a foot in the door with those girls?

I have noticed there is A LO-OOO-T of "marry rich" litterature for women, but there does nt seem to be anything similar for men? (I d first have a look at "how to bang rich" litterature if it would lol)
When you have had many girls, it may look like a new goal to set oneself.

interesting one :
http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lif ... to-wealth/

Article title could be changed to : "how we men loose our mind for a pussy... while women don t (for a dick)..."

This post is NOT the topic of this thread, just thought it was interesting to share here as a statistical background for marrying (not dating nor banging).

You've gotta give them the good dick....

I don t expect getting loads of "good" replies (i.e. backed up from experience) since I expect 95% of PUAs won t care much about that (as long as the girl has the looks and the pussy LOL).

Am afraid would be more difficult than that... also you need to get "there" FIRST... to show that off. And am not sure that bragging about it will help getting those kind of girls.. or it might ?! I don t know.

How can I best communicate this? . . .

OK, you have a 60 inch flat screen tv with full surround and the latest xBox whammo game thing. Now you play on this thing for an entire year and then somebody tells you, "Hey, what are you doing with that? I've got this 15 inch TV with an old school Nintendo. . . want so switch?"

Now. . . you might be quick to say that not all women are this shallow. Maybe . . . as another member suggested, women like big dicks. Maybe they like a cute face. But the problem with cute faces and big dicks is that at ANY TIME women wish find big dicks, they could go to the local club and pick one up for free. That's right. . . to women, big dicks that are willing to fuck are a commodity. To most men, willing to fuck pussies are more scarce which is why we place more value to pussy. . . but that's another story.

So, successful men are a scarcity. . . and if they've lived a certain lifestyle, most (unless they are absolutely ugly and rebellious) will not be willing to downgrade their lives. A weekend in Rome for brunch . . . Hong Kong for New years, Skiing in Chamonix, diving in Nha Trang, Water festival in Phnom Penh, Party on daddy's yacht. This isn't their own life. . . this is the life everybody she knows. Now. . . the funny thing is that they LOVE to talk about how looks aren't important. (They go to the salon once a week for 100's of dollars of SPAM and have a make up stash more expensive than my car) They love to chat about how love is the only important thing. . . but almost always, that "love" goes towards guys who are in their socio-economic circles.

Here's the exception: Women dream better than men. They have better imagination. They see better into the future. A fat chick tells us, "Hey, I am dieting," and we say, "Good luck, call me when you lost the weight." Women see that a man is on his way to a better future by seeing that his current skill sets and efforts are comparable to the people who are already successful, (because they've seen plenty of them) and with younger girls, you might even be in a better position than somebody who already achieved. Again, men BUY; we achieve, then we go out and say, "Look girls, want some of this?" And again, women imagine. They dream. They INVEST. They see a guy with potential and yeah. . . they fall in love. (Of course are awful speculators but the the point is that the goal is the same)

Then what are the skill sets? Interestingly enough, there's plenty overlap with typical PU skills. Confidence with strangers. Support of friends. Oral communication, humor, kindness, leadership, management, goal setting, strategy, social standing, etc. . . and these things only work up to about age 30 or so. After that age, no matter how well you demonstrate your shit. . . if you arrive to a cocktail party on a bicycle, it's probably not looking too good. If you arrive on a bike wearing a 10k watch, then probably a different matter. That's the nuts and bolts.

Sarge in the banks.

Wealthy girls roll over their certificates of deposits every 30, 60 or 90 days and they have multiple accounts in several banks. Wealthy girls make deposits themselves for those passive income generating properties. Wealthy girls just go to the bank to chit-chat with other wealthy girls who hang out in banks or near around banks.

This age group though is a bit older (and somewhat on the heavy side). It's their own money; not their parent's money they're hanging out in the banks about. Or most likely, it's their husband's money.

There's a big difference between a high flying lifestyle versus 'rich'. Read up on the studies of Thomas Stanley and William Danko and you'll get a better grip on reality. That's real world. That's how you find them. Hint: Try to also hangout in university cafeterias.

Now, as for sarging 'rich' and/or powerful women, read up on Giacomo Casanova's work or read about the life of Grigori Rasputin. That's how you sarge rich women based on the insights of two of history's most colorful figures.

As for personal experience, rich girls have a different 'language'. Adapt to that and you've got a foot in. Keywords: prudence, investments, return on equity, pussy cats (yep), orchids (vanda, dendrobiums, phaleopsis) and so on and so forth.

Wealthy girls have emotions, nipples and pussies. Work on those and you'll never need any mystical analogies or explanations like Robert Green's 48 Laws of Power. But if you want to immerse in some mental masturbation b.s. I would also highly recommend Green's 48 Laws for sarging rich (and powerful) women.

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Lol. No.

Wrong.

Very few men will actually approach and sexually escalate on these high social status girls. Even high social status men have approach anxiety. Moreover, high social status girls typically don't make the move on men and they can't easily tell if a guy has a big dick when he's clothed... Not unless the dude accentuates his erection.

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It has always puzzled me why this forum in particular seems to attract people who contribute so much about things they know nothing about. Your initial reply is 90% absolute idiocy + 10% book recommendations. . . I just didn't have the energy to comment on every single joke written but I'll just comment on your first assertion.

You claim that wealthy women visit the bank often to "roll over certificates". Do you realize that this is a pick up forum? Who the fuck are you talking about? 65 year old recent widows of their 4th husbands? Then you suggest that guys sarge in banks? Do you know ONE person, man or woman, who has amassed considerable wealth? They are incredibly private about their financial affairs. You're suggesting that guys go to banks and spy on the type of transactions these 65 year old ladies make and then kick off an opener? Christ, you can't even make up a good story.

And now this?
First off, the discussion at hand is "wealthy women" . . . but you've shifted the topic to "high social status". Fine. . . how do you tell that you are standing in front of a woman of high social status? How do you tell if you are standing in front of a wealthy girl? Seriously. . . I'd love to hear your fantasies.

Having grown up the spoiled brat of parents of some means and gone to prep schools with girls whose last names you'd recognize. . .then having involved myself in work that requires regularly mingling with people of wealth to extreme wealth, I can tell you that what you wrote is absolutely idiotic. The examples I wrote in my initial reply are not imaginations. I still get requests to meet up to snowboard Hokkaido, Island hop SEA, and join friends the Florida boat show to help shop for a yacht + party. . . and where every pretty girls go, wealthy or not, they get hit on plenty.

You're jumping to conclusions about spying. I've cited Stanley and Danko to help the guys out there separate reality from fantasy. I could just give off some anecdotal I've done this, I've done that or I fucked so and so, but this is a pick up forum where keyboard jockeys abound and generally make unsupported claims.
High status and wealthy are generally synonyms.
Anybody can claim they've banged the daughters of billionaires. There's just no way to validate that in a forum like this. There's a reason why I've name dropped Stanley and Danko. I'm subtly defining wealthy here as those who have networths of 1 to 10 million U.S. dollars who are plenty than the daughters of $100 millionaires or billionaires.

What are the odds of dudes around here meeting girl millionaires who have networths in the 1 to 10 million dollar range versus those in the +10 million dollar range? Better.

Moreover, wealthy people who shop around for big ticket items typically fund their purchases through bank financing.

Hint: Women who have more social proof in banks have higher odds of being a regular in there which means, they have made regular deposits through the years and/or have purchased many big ticket items through OPM. Now, I'm not hinting at $100 million wealthy women or girlie billionaires here where finance officers or accountants do the banking for them. I've defined a very specific demographic-- the Stanley and Danko demographic.

What are the odds of an ordinary seducer successfully seducing a wealthy woman in the bank versus the places you've mentioned? Better.

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Stop making a fool of yourself and go back to your role in this forum as the virtual librarian. Reading you dig a deeper idiot hole pains me. Why not just start your own "I fucked 800 girls" thread and just run with your bullshit in that miscellaneous section?

For anybody who knows. . . your bs is just so fucking boring. . . but for the sake of the members here, I'll address one more thing. I asked you, "HOW DO YOU KNOW IF A GIRL IS HIGH STATUS OR RICH?" And you answered, "I DO NOT KNOW" - because you didn't answer at all, "Durh, hurh, hurh. . . it's synonymous."

But maybe here's a clue. . . you wrote earlier that you think they(the rich) have a different language? hahahahahaha.....fuck, that is some awful shit man. Fucking idiot. OK, I'll do YOUR idiot act and tell my friends the next time we go out, "Stop being so obvious! Those guys know you have money because all you talk about is ROE, ROA, and your God Damn Orchids! Start talking about the McD's value menu you conceited assholes!" - LOL . . actually . . . this is kinda funny.

I suggest the same to most who draw negative attention to themselves in this forum:

If you do this here, you probably have a habit of doing this in your real life. Figure it out before you become the lonely 60 year old virgin everybody hates.

You're one angry, constantly bitter dude who can't keep to the merits of the discussion without some form of argumentum ad hominem.

I'm done with this thread since you refuse to discuss the merits or demerits of the ideas without going into personal attacks.

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Are you looking for a sugar mamma or just a regular wealthy girl? For both, I'd say go to upper class places more ; upper class bars, clubs, shopping areas. Wherever you usually game, go to the upper class version. If you're looking for a sugar mamma type woman, you don't need social proof. For a regular girl, as always dress nice and make sure you're just not an unambitious guy.

For the rest who are checking this thread, you might have seen ^this pattern from this poster and socially awkward people in real life. The flowchart:

1. Lie/exaggerate and behave like a know it all asshole.
2. Get called out, made fun of, and ignored.
3. The only way to defend a lie is to lie even more. . . so this is what they do.
4. They get made fun of more and ignored more.
5. They run out of lies and call it quits, blaming everybody else.

HH is an extreme example but we all have a bit of ^this in us. Stop at 1 if you can.

"Rich" girls go to the same fucking places that normal people go to. They are normal people... They just make more money... If you want to really eliminate the chances of you dating a girl who's broke, go to nicer places. Think about it for a second.... What do girls like to do with their money? Rich or poor? Go shopping maybe? So go to nicer stores and shop there too.

Otherwise, they are normal girls who go to normal bars and clubs...

Example... I dated a girl who works at a hedge fund. She makes a quarter million dollars a year at the age of 25 years old. I met her at a normal bar with no dress code. I pulled her not because of how much money I make or where I live... But because I made her HORNY. It wasn't until after I hooked up with her that I found out how much money she makes. I fucked her brains out every time we had sex... This girl bought me clothes, shoes, tickets to sporting events, vacations, all types of shit because I fucked her right and she wanted to do whatever she could to keep me around.

That's why I said... Just give them the good dick. Fuck them good. Let them know that you can fuck them good and they won't compare your financial status to their own. There are alot of girls who's families have installed a good work ethic in them from birth and they know how to get rich. They don't go to different places than your normal girl goes to.

The girl I'm dating right now comes from a very wealthy family who gave her a very good work ethic. She makes good money and based off of the places she goes, you would never know that she is "made of money." She is a normal girl who has normal feelings there fore she is horny and likes dick as well. Except to her, money is not an object... She would much rather spend money on me to make sure I stick around than spend it on herself. She buys me all types of shit... She's the one who takes me out to dinner. I guess you could say my "pimp game is tight." I don't know about that but I know how to ruin a girls life because I fuck them so good... Any other sex would be considered mediocre at best.

What I'm getting at is there is no different way that you treat the girls who are "wealthy" than you would a girl who's dead broke. You give them the good dick. When you first talk to them, your overall demeanor shows them that you will give them the good dick. It's all about how good you are in bed. Become a rock star in bed and no matter what lifestyle the girls may come from, you can have them.

SIDE NOTE: If you want girls who are like trust fund babies... I'm not experienced with that so I wouldn't know. Maybe try going to a bank and hitting up girls there? This whole "electronic banking" thing kind of eliminated the reason for people to go to banks though... Not exactly a "target rich" area would be my guess.

I do have experience talking with these girls though... The "trust fund babies"... And I will say that they are the type of girls that I won't even go near. They are annoying and socially retarded. They've been sheltered their entire lives and have nothing interesting to talk about aside from what they saw on Pintrest or the colors that they paint their nails. If these are the type of girls you want.... My best wishes go out to you and I hope for your own sake that your dick doesn't get chopped off and shoved into the garbage disposal.